I do have to tape the outside connections Mike. But instead of running a pigtail with a bulkhead connector I run an n-f/f bulkhead connector and n-m pigtials. Gotta tape up the antenna connection ONCE. After that, if you change out the radios etc. and need a different pigtail just unscrew the pigtail and your golden.
I also run boxes quite a bit bigger than I need. 1'x1'x2" or so. That way I've got a lot of room to move things around, use different boards etc. My *plan* is to not have to change out the boxes anymore. One of the nicest things I've found in a long time is the Pac Wireless pass-through ethernet grip tight. Not the goofy one that requires a screwdriver or little kid to release the tab on the connector. The one that allows the whole cat5 cable to fit through with the connector already on it. Very nice design. Lastly I've been REALLY happy with the Shireen double insulated cat5 with no gel. Instead of a gel it has a paperish wrapping around the wires that somehow expands and seals things when /if it gets wet. This cable is a LOT easier to deal with than the old fashioned grease filled ones! laters, marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP > Marlon: > > I am very interested in your "no more taping" bulkhead connector. Do you > mean on the NEMA box? What do you use? > > Friendly Regards, > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:36 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP > > That's way more than $400 for a repeater site. > > I don't pay monthly rent of most of them either, but it still costs to > build > > one. > > Good water tight box, $200+. > > Coax, $1 per foot or so. $12 each for connectors (unless you buy the > cheap > junky ones then it's still $4 to $6 each). > > MT 433 AH board, $100ish > > XR2 card $100 ish > > Pigtail, $15 to $25 > > Bulkhead connector (NO more untaping connectors just to install a new > radio!!!!) $15 to $25 for the good ones with the o-ring and stainless > construction. > > Battery backup $100+ > > Ethernet switch $50 to $100 > > Backhaul to the tower, $200+ > > Any electrical wiring to be done? $$$ > > I guess if you use the cheapest of the cheap gear you could get the cost > of > a repeater below $800 or $1000 but you'll soon find yourself working a lot > harder than you should to keep it running right. Been there done that. > > As I've said before, 1001 ways to depelt that feline. > Marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:19 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP > > > All of my repeater sites have 0 infrastructure cost. I'm using a TV > tower, > grain leg, etc. This means the only additional cost is a NEMA box, cheap > battery, mt box and omni. Roughly $400. If I get one customer at 35/mo > it > takes a year for ROI. Two customers six months, etc. I typically charge > 45/mo and get 3 people a day after the AP is up. Looking at my third > screen > I've three repeater sites (at least) with only three subs. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts." > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Marlon K. Schafer > <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: > >> 15 per ap? Man I WISH I could do that out here! >> >> I barely break even on a site at 15 subs. (I really hate the sites with >> 3 >> to 5 subs on them :-( ). >> >> I think my highest site is up to 76 subs or so. Got a couple of them >> like >> that. They are certainly feeling the strain but we're out of channels in >> 2.4. >> >> For the busier sites I've started to install 5.8 gig systems over the top >> of >> the 2.4 and charge a little more for it. So far people would still >> rather >> go with the cheaper stuff even though it's much less consistent in it's >> performance. >> >> For one site I have finally broken down and just install the 5.8 and sell >> it >> at the same price as the 2.4 just so that I can get people moved. >> >> Now if I could just get more/cheaper backhaul out here. >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP >> >> >> Several little repeater sites I have are Mikrotik APs and Ubiquiti CPEs. >> No >> more then 15 stations on each AP off the top of my head. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue >> that counts." >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi Liam: >> > >> > We are a WISPA Vendor and the largest WISP in KY (just an hour or so >> > away from you). >> > >> > I'm not exactly sure what you are after, but I am guessing it is the >> > billing software? We have decided to use Platypus from Tucows after >> > many issues with our homegrown alternative. We are in the >> > implementation phase, so we'll let you know how that goes. >> > >> > We have extensive knowledge and have used Trango, Ubiquiti, MikroTik, >> > Tranzeo, and Motorola Canopy. Hands down, Motorola Canopy handles the >> > most clients with the best throughput. Ubiquiti and MikroTik are a >> > somewhat cheaper alternative, but work well in low-sub count >> > situations. >> > >> > Feel free to give DJ a call, 800-405-9865 and he can guide you in the >> > right direction. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Chuck Hogg >> > Shelby Broadband >> > 502-722-9292 >> > ch...@shelbybb.com >> > http://www.shelbybb.com >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> > Behalf Of Liam Cummings >> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:50 PM >> > To: wireless@wispa.org >> > Subject: [WISPA] New WISP >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > We are a technologies solutions company located in Cincinnati and >> > trying >> > to become a WISP. 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