I've never had this work even when using two 5 gig cards, one in the lower band and one in the upper at least when trying to run dual nstreme. My throughput just always sucks. Running 532's, however has great throughput with the same radio cards. I've put little shield envelopes over one of the cards to make it work better, but it still isn't as good as the old 532's. Just my experience.
Cameron > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> > <html> > <head> > <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> > </head> > <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> > I've been doing that for a couple of years...<br> > <br> > But I've only been leaving 1 or 2 empty channels between them.... > 20-40 MHz open space.<br> > <br> > Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > <blockquote cite="mid:7a120693fe7d4abf8ad509b168183...@dell8400" > type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">I have verified with a spectrum analyzer you can run two > cards stacked on > top in a 433 in the same 5.8 band as long as the channels you are using > are > at complete opposite ends of the band. 5745 and 5825 and 20mhz channels > and > they will not bleed over. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" > href="http://www.wavelinc.com";>www.wavelinc.com</a> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" > href="mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org";>wireless-boun...@wispa.org</a> > [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" > href="mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org";>mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org</a>] > On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:21 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP > > Usually 5.8 to the tower, and 5.2 for the repeater. I haven't done any > repeaters like this since DFS. I do have a couple at 2.4. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" > href="http://www.ics-il.com";>http://www.ics-il.com</a> > > > > On 5/6/2010 4:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">Are you saying you have two radios in the 433? Are they > the same band? > > The 411 and 433 share the same horsepower, in case anyone didn't recognize > </pre> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->that. > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts." > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Mike Hammett<a > class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" > href="mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net";><wispawirel...@ics-il.net></a> > </pre> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->wrote: > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap=""> > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">Most of my repeater sites are about $150 - $200 more > than the CPE. I > upgrade to a 433 from a 411, add another radio, bulkhead pigtail, > jumper, cheap omni or sector. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" > href="http://www.ics-il.com";>http://www.ics-il.com</a> > > > > On 4/27/2010 10:19 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">All of my repeater sites have 0 infrastructure cost. > I'm using a TV > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->tower, > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">grain leg, etc. This means the only additional cost > is a NEMA box, > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->cheap > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">battery, mt box and omni. Roughly $400. If I get > one customer at 35/mo > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->it > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">takes a year for ROI. Two customers six months, etc. > I typically > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->charge > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">45/mo and get 3 people a day after the AP is up. > Looking at my third > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->screen > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">I've three repeater sites (at least) with only three > subs. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->continue > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">that counts." > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Marlon K. > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->Schafer<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" > href="mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com";><o...@odessaoffice.com></a>wrote: > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap=""> > > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">15 per ap? Man I WISH I could do that out here! > > I barely break even on a site at 15 subs. (I really hate the sites > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->with 3 > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">to 5 subs on them :-( ). > > I think my highest site is up to 76 subs or so. Got a couple of them > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->like > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">that. They are certainly feeling the strain but > we're out of channels > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->in > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">2.4. > > For the busier sites I've started to install 5.8 gig systems over the > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->top > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">of > the 2.4 and charge a little more for it. So far people would still > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->rather > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">go with the cheaper stuff even though it's much > less consistent in it's > performance. > > For one site I have finally broken down and just install the 5.8 and > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->sell > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">it > at the same price as the 2.4 just so that I can get people moved. > > Now if I could just get more/cheaper backhaul out here. > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Luthman"<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" > href="mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com";><j...@imaginenetworksllc.com></a> > To: "WISPA General List"<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" > href="mailto:wireless@wispa.org";><wireless@wispa.org></a> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP > > > Several little repeater sites I have are Mikrotik APs and Ubiquiti > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->CPEs. > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap=""> No > more then 15 stations on each AP off the top of my head. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->continue > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">that counts." > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Chuck Hogg<a > class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" > href="mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com";><ch...@shelbybb.com></a> > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->wrote: > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap=""> > > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">Hi Liam: > > We are a WISPA Vendor and the largest WISP in KY (just an hour or so > away from you). > > I'm not exactly sure what you are after, but I am guessing it is the > billing software? We have decided to use Platypus from Tucows after > many issues with our homegrown alternative. We are in the > implementation phase, so we'll let you know how that goes. > > We have extensive knowledge and have used Trango, Ubiquiti, MikroTik, > Tranzeo, and Motorola Canopy. Hands down, Motorola Canopy handles the > most clients with the best throughput. Ubiquiti and MikroTik are a > somewhat cheaper alternative, but work well in low-sub count > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->situations. > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">Feel free to give DJ a call, 800-405-9865 and he > can guide you in the > right direction. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" > href="mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com";>ch...@shelbybb.com</a> > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" > href="http://www.shelbybb.com";>http://www.shelbybb.com</a> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" > href="mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org";>wireless-boun...@wispa.org</a> > [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" > href="mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org";>mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org</a>] > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->On > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">Behalf Of Liam Cummings > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:50 PM > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" > href="mailto:wireless@wispa.org";>wireless@wispa.org</a> > Subject: [WISPA] New WISP > > Hi all, > > We are a technologies solutions company located in Cincinnati and > </pre> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > </blockquote> > <pre wrap=""><!---->trying > </pre> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <blockquote type="cite"> > <pre wrap="">to become a WISP. 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