Bob - out of interest...

Do you have any law enforcement, EMS, Fire or Military experience in  
your background?
While working 9/11 - I lost many friends.   While I survived with only  
cancer (and a bunch of weight gain) much of our platoon of EMS and  
Fire fighters got much worse.

My children have had Tumors (the ones born after 9/11 and after my  
service there... )

Last I checked the parade in town had both the VFW, PBA, Fire Dept,  
Churches, Bikes with kids riding them, and yes - EVEN just as you call  
it EQUAL AMERICANS on the streets walking.

Please don't take this as if I am attacking you - but I am wondering  
if you have paid any sacrifice towards the freedoms you hold so dear...
Not saying that you have not - not done anything either...  It was  
however through Blood, Sacrifice, Tears, Death, and yes ... EVEN WAR
that our freedoms were given to us.

It is through Blood, Sweat, Sacrifice, Tears, Death - and yes EVEN WAR  
that they have been maintained and guaranteed...

Blessings,


On Jul 2, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Robert West wrote:

> We should all get priority.  Arlington is place where military are
> condensed.  The lives of fallen regular Americans are diluted all  
> across
> this country yet the numbers are greater than those at Arlington.   
> No one
> should have priority, we are all Americans and Americans equally.  The
> fourth is for all of us, we should worship no one but ourselves and  
> our
> country as a collective.  In my mind anyhow.  Besides, the military  
> have
> their own holidays of being worshiped.  We need to know our own  
> importance.
> Me, you, us, Rickeesha......
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US!
>
> Bob, I agree with you to a point. It is US, as a collective. But,  
> only one
> group has offered and continues to offer the "ultimate sacrifice".
> Many of our great leasers such as Washington was military. They  
> didn't just
> the talk, they walked the walk. I did not take the opportunity to  
> serve, but
> after visiting Washington DC and seeing all those grave markers, I  
> realize I
> do not know the meaning of true sacrifice. Just because they don't  
> own the
> 4th, doesn't mean they shouldn't get priority. They are the only  
> ones who
> actually fight against tyranny and for freedom. Dont let others tell  
> you
> differently.
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com 
> >
> wrote:
>> Yes.  Happy birthday to US!  As in us, a collective people.  But,
>> unfortunately, tomorrow I will have to endure yet another fourth  
>> being
>> hijacked by constant military references when  this day is to be for
>> all of us, not the military.  We are ALL involved, or at least we all
>> should be, in the protection of our civil liberties.  The military
>> really isn't the point of it.
>>
>> But............  It's how things have become.  Sorry to open the door
>> to controversy (MDK, CHILL!)  but the takeover of the fourth by the
>> military pisses me off.
>>
>> MLK wasn't military.  The murdered students at Kent State were not
> military.
>> The workers in the Homestead Strike were not military.........   As
>> well as many, many, many other Americans who had enough courage to
>> stand up and say "Enough!" with total disregard to their personal
>> safety.  It's to those people, AS WELL as those who were willing to
>> lay down their life in the military, that I will say "Thank You" to  
>> on
>> the fourth as well as every other day of the year.  The military is
>> for the protection of the people, not vice versa.  Boris Yeltsin was
>> able to stand in front of a tank of the Russian army and demand "NO  
>> MORE",
> are we to possess less of an opportunity?
>> No.
>>
>> Thank You.
>> Thank You.
>> Thank You.
>>
>> Thank you to US.  ALL OF US!
>>
>> WE ROCK!
>>
>> Now go grill some steaks and get drunk.  I'll be working.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On Behalf Of RickG
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:55 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US!
>>
>> Everyone please have a safe & sane 4th!
>>
>> - Personal Liberty Digest - http://www.personalliberty.com -
>>
>> They Signed For Us
>> Posted By Chip Wood On July 2, 2010 @ 12:01 am In Chip Wood, Liberty,
>> Personal Liberty Articles | 53 Comments
>>
>> Happy Anniversary To Us
>>
>> Tomorrow will mark a full year of Straight Talk columns for Personal
>> Liberty Digest™. How time flies when you’re having fun! As many of  
>> you
>> know, I also write two other, shorter features for Personal Liberty
>> Digest™ every week—Chip Shots, which appears at the bottom of  
>> Friday’s
>> columns, and This Week in History, which appears at the bottom of
> Wednesday’s.
>>
>> As it happens, my very first piece for Personal Liberty Digest™ was
>> about the incredible men who pledged their lives, their fortunes and
>> their sacred honor to secure liberty for us. So it seems only
>> appropriate to repeat that message again today, as we prepare to  
>> celebrate
> our 234th Independence Day.
>> Happy July 4!
>>
>> Every schoolchild in America knows why we celebrate the Fourth of  
>> July.
>> Flags and fireworks commemorate the day we declared our independence
>> from Britain.
>>
>> On July 4, 1776, after months of heated debate, representatives of  
>> the
>> Continental Congress voted unanimously that, “These United Colonies
>> are and of right ought to be Free and Independent States.”
>>
>> Thirteen colonies voted to become something new in history—the United
>> States of America. Now, all they had to do was win their independence
>> from a government that would consider them traitors.
>>
>> Fifty-six men bravely affixed their signatures to the Declaration of
>> Independence. What sort of men were they? And what became of them?
>>
>> Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists, 11 were merchants and nine were
>> farmers or plantation owners. They were well-educated men of means.
>> All of them had a great deal to lose when they voted to defy what was
>> then the most powerful nation on earth. Yet they willingly risked
>> everything when they pledged to each other “our Lives, our  
>> Fortunes, and
> our sacred Honor.”
>>
>> As I said, all of us can explain why we celebrate Independence Day on
>> July 4th. But how many of us can name even a handful of the signers  
>> of
>> the Declaration of Independence? How much do we know, really, about
>> the men who risked their lives and everything they owned in the  
>> cause of
> freedom?
>>
>> Because the story of the signers is so inspiring, we’ve arranged a
>> special treat for you today—a free copy of a wonderful little book
>> called They Signed For Us.
>>
>> Half a century ago two patriotic ladies in the Midwest wanted to help
>> others learn more about the remarkable men who signed the  
>> Declaration.
>> Merle Sinclair and Annabel Douglas McArthur wrote a delightful book
>> about the events of that time, including a history of each of the
>> signers. They called it, They Signed For Us.
>>
>> At the end of today’s column, you’ll find a link that will take you  
>> to
>> a free copy of the book. You may read it online or download it and
>> print your own copy. The file also includes a list of all of the
>> signers and the states they represented, plus the complete text of  
>> the
> Declaration of Independence.
>>
>> To whet your appetite a bit, here’s an excerpt from They Signed For  
>> Us.
>>
>> “SUDDENLY THE BIG BELL in the State House steeple pealed joyously.  
>> The
>> appointed signal! Cheers rose from the waiting crowds.
>>
>> “‘Proclaim liberty throughout the land….’
>>
>> “Cannon boomed, drums rolled. Church bells rang, sounding the death
>> knell of British domination!
>>
>> “News of the adoption of the Declaration of Independence spread like
>> wildfire. Ready messengers leaped into their saddles to ride and
>> spread the word. The Declaration had been ordered printed on a single
>> large sheet,
>> ‘45.5 x 37.5 cm.,’ or approximately 18 inches by 15 inches. These
>> broadsides were distributed with all possible speed, to be read in  
>> the
>> provincial assemblies, pulpits, market places, and army camps.”
>>
>> The story continues:
>>
>> “On July 8, the Liberty Bell summoned citizens of Philadelphia to the
>> State House yard for a public reading of the document. Colonel John
>> Nixon mounted a high platform and spoke the noble lines in a strong,
>> clear voice. The crowd, now hushed, listened intently throughout.
>>
>> “ ‘…for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the
>> protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our
>> Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.’”
>>
>> It was almost a month later that the Declaration was engrossed on
>> parchment and ready for signing by the delegates to the Continental
>> Congress. Members gathered on Aug. 2 for the ceremony.
>>
>> The only person who had signed the Declaration on July 4 was John
>> Hancock, a delegate from Boston who had been elected president of the
>> Continental Congress. He wrote his signature in large, bold letters
>> and as he did, in a reference to the near-sightedness of the  
>> British king,
> he declared, “There!
>> John Bull can read my name without spectacles and may now double his
>> reward of £500 for my head. That is my defiance.”
>>
>> As the delegates gathered around a desk to sign the Declaration,
>> William Emery, one of the representatives from Rhode Island, moved as
>> close as he could. “I was determined to see how they all looked as
>> they signed what might be their death warrants,” he later wrote. “I
>> placed myself beside the secretary, Charles Thomson, and eyed each
>> closely as he affixed his name to the document. Undaunted  
>> resolution was
> displayed on every countenance.”
>>
>> Contrasting with Hancock’s confident signature was the shaky scratch
>> of Stephen Hopkins from Rhode Island. Hopkins was the second-oldest
>> signer and suffered from palsy. As he handed the quill to the next
>> person, he valiantly proclaimed, “My hand trembles, but my heart does
> not!”
>>
>> As one or two delegates hung back, seemingly reluctant to add their
>> signatures to such a momentous declaration, John Hancock encouraged  
>> them.
>> “We must be unanimous,” he said. “There must be no pulling  
>> different ways.
>> We must all hang together.”
>>
>> Legend has it that Benjamin Franklin replied, “Yes, we must all hang
>> together. Or most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”
>>
>> Happily, none of the signers was hanged by the British. But all of
>> them were considered traitors to the Crown. And many of them suffered
>> terribly for the cause they so ardently supported.
>>
>> When New Jersey signer Richard Stockton returned to his home after
>> signing the Declaration he learned that British troops were coming to
>> arrest him. He fled to a neighbor’s house with his wife and children.
>> But a Loyalist (as supporters of the British cause were called)
>> betrayed the family’s hiding place. Here is how Merle Sinclair and
>> Annabel Douglas McArthur describe what happened to him:
>>
>> “The judge was dragged from bed and beaten, then thrown into prison.
>> This distinguished jurist, who had worn the handsome robes of a
>> colonial court, now shivered in a common jail, abused and all but  
>> starved.
>>
>> “A shocked Congress arranged for his parole. Invalided by the harsh
>> treatment he had received, he returned to [his home at] Morven to  
>> find
>> his furniture and clothing burned, his fine horses stolen, and his
>> library—one of the finest private collections in the
>> country—completely destroyed. The hiding place of exquisite family
>> silver, hastily buried, had been betrayed by a servant.
>>
>> “The Stockton’s were so destitute that they had to accept charity.  
>> For
>> the judge’s fortune was gone, too. He had pledged it and his life to
>> his country. He lost both. He did not live to see the Revolution  
>> won.”
>>
>> John Morton, a delegate from Pennsylvania, was the first of the
>> signers to die. His last words for his family, before his death in
>> April 1777 (just eight months after he signed the Declaration), were,
>> “…tell them that they will live to see the hour when they shall
>> acknowledge it to have been the most glorious service I ever  
>> rendered to
> my country.”
>>
>> The following month Button Gwinnett, the commander in chief of
>> Georgia’s militia, was badly wounded in a duel with a political
>> opponent. He died a few days later—the second signer to die.
>>
>> But by and large, the signers of the Declaration of Independence were
>> a hardy bunch. Three of them lived until their 90s—a remarkable
>> accomplishment in a time when most men did not see their 50th  
>> birthday.
>>
>> Only two of the signers were bachelors. Sixteen of them married  
>> twice.
>> Records indicate that at least two, and perhaps as many as six, were
>> childless. But the other 50 signers were a prolific lot, having a
>> total of
>> 325 children between them! William Ellerey of Rhode Island had 17
>> children; Roger Sherman of Connecticut had 15.
>>
>> Fifty years after the united colonies declared their independence  
>> from
>> Britain, plans were made for jubilant celebrations on July 4, 1826.
>> Only three of the original signers were still alive—Charles Carroll,
>> Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. Here is how Sinclair and McArthur
>> describe what occurred that day:
>>
>> “In a dramatic climax that even their agile minds would not have
>> contemplated, these two principals in the struggle for Independence
>> left the nation awestricken and touched, by dying hours apart on the
> Fourth of July.
>> Jefferson died at one o’clock in the afternoon, Adams toward  
>> evening.”
>>
>> Ten days earlier Jefferson had written the mayor of Washington,
>> expressing his regret that ill health prevented him from coming to  
>> the
>> nation’s new Capitol to join the festivities.
>>
>> “I should, indeed, with peculiar delight, have met… with the small
>> band, the remnant of that host of worthies, who joined with us on  
>> that
>> day, in the bold and doubtful election we were to make for our
>> country, between the submission or the sword.”
>>
>> And he concluded by writing, “Let the annual return of this day
>> forever refresh our recollection of these rights, and an undiminished
>> devotion to them.”
>>
>> As part of that “undiminished devotion,” we are delighted to provide
>> you with a free copy of They Signed For Us. Please click here  
>> [1]for it.
>>
>> And please share this copy of Straight Talk with others you know so
>> they may enjoy it as well. Just forward this column with a short note
>> urging them to read about the incredibly brave patriots who won our
>> freedom for us when They Signed For Us.
>>
>> Until next time, keep some powder dry.
>>
>> —Chip Wood
>>
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