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-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US! In regards to most of these folks - have you been to their town parades? In PA - you cannot go to a coal mining town and not see a tribute to the miners. We could say the same for the many who died building the large buildings in our cities. Can you name others who are fighting - and putting it all on the line right now? I can - Sheriff Depts across the nation, Fire and EMS across the nation Probation Officers, Highway Workers (yup they die quite a bit) and yes our military. Fayette County Hospital has representation in the parade, so do the churches, as does even McDonalds - Community Action, and even Farmers - just check how much farm equipment goes in the parade... so ... again - where do you find that there is less representation? The ideal you speak of is the simple fact that while many in this nation think its okay to burn the flag we have those who will stand up and take a bullet defending the freedom to burn the flag. In regards to the miners - they were doing it for a paycheck. PERIOD. I am willing to bet if you would like you can pay homage to those folks - and I think many here in Fayette County would join you. I fail to see where they are getting priority. In regards to Kent State - how many folks were injured in trying to protect Property and Lives? Slashing a hose line on a firefighter in my opinion is nothing short of Attempted Murder. Don't believe me - let me put you in a burning building without a water line - Any other firefighters on the list care to comment? In 1999 Kent University constructed an individual memorial for each of the students in the parking lot between Taylor and Prentice halls. Each of the four memorials is located on the exact spot where the student fell, mortally wounded. Crosby Stills & Nash went to Kent State campus for the first time on May 4, 1997, where they performed the song for the May 4 Task Force's 27th annual commemoration. Something tells me that if your requesting that the military not be given any homage on the 4th - than I am right in stating since May 4th every year pays homage to the 4 who died @ Kent state... its okay for us to ignore them on the 4th as well... July 4th is about the Birth of a Nation - It is not about the Memory of those who Died in keeping its freedom. Thats a different Holiday called... Memorial Day. If that is your argument I can agree - but the rest - seems like scatter On Jul 2, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Robert West wrote: > The ultimate sacrifice. The freedom riders, the miners and families > at Matawan West Virginia, the protesters at Kent State. These people > ALSO made > the ultimate sacrifice, they died for what they felt was right. > These are > the ones I also feel should be remembered and thanked and if you get > down to it, they took it upon themselves to fight for our freedoms, to > fight for us. > In reality, these are the people who are the epitome of "Americanism" > more than the military for these stood up in defense of the moment > with not thought to safety but in pure defense of an ideal. No one > ordered them to > do a thing, they just did what needed to be done and died for US. > No one > should get priority. This is to be for all of us, at least for me. > > We all are supposed to fight for all of us. > > > > > > ----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:44 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US! > > Bob, I agree with you to a point. It is US, as a collective. But, only > one group has offered and continues to offer the "ultimate sacrifice". > Many of our great leasers such as Washington was military. They didn't > just the talk, they walked the walk. I did not take the opportunity to > serve, but after visiting Washington DC and seeing all those grave > markers, I realize I do not know the meaning of true sacrifice. Just > because they don't own the 4th, doesn't mean they shouldn't get > priority. They are the only ones who actually fight against tyranny > and for freedom. Dont let others tell you differently. > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Robert West > <robert.w...@just-micro.com > > > wrote: >> Yes. Happy birthday to US! As in us, a collective people. But, >> unfortunately, tomorrow I will have to endure yet another fourth >> being hijacked by constant military references when this day is to >> be for all of us, not the military. We are ALL involved, or at least >> we all should be, in the protection of our civil liberties. The >> military really isn't the point of it. >> >> But............ It's how things have become. Sorry to open the door >> to controversy (MDK, CHILL!) but the takeover of the fourth by the >> military pisses me off. >> >> MLK wasn't military. The murdered students at Kent State were not > military. >> The workers in the Homestead Strike were not military......... As >> well as many, many, many other Americans who had enough courage to >> stand up and say "Enough!" with total disregard to their personal >> safety. It's to those people, AS WELL as those who were willing to >> lay down their life in the military, that I will say "Thank You" to >> on the fourth as well as every other day of the year. The military >> is for the protection of the people, not vice versa. Boris Yeltsin >> was able to stand in front of a tank of the Russian army and demand >> "NO MORE", > are we to possess less of an opportunity? >> No. >> >> Thank You. >> Thank You. >> Thank You. >> >> Thank you to US. ALL OF US! >> >> WE ROCK! >> >> Now go grill some steaks and get drunk. I'll be working. >> >> Bob- >> >> >> >> >> >> ---Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:55 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US! >> >> Everyone please have a safe & sane 4th! >> >> - Personal Liberty Digest - http://www.personalliberty.com - >> >> They Signed For Us >> Posted By Chip Wood On July 2, 2010 @ 12:01 am In Chip Wood, Liberty, >> Personal Liberty Articles | 53 Comments >> >> Happy Anniversary To Us >> >> Tomorrow will mark a full year of Straight Talk columns for Personal >> Liberty Digest. How time flies when youre having fun! As many of >> you know, I also write two other, shorter features for Personal >> Liberty Digest every weekChip Shots, which appears at the bottom of >> Fridays columns, and This Week in History, which appears at the >> bottom of > Wednesdays. >> >> As it happens, my very first piece for Personal Liberty Digest was >> about the incredible men who pledged their lives, their fortunes and >> their sacred honor to secure liberty for us. So it seems only >> appropriate to repeat that message again today, as we prepare to >> celebrate > our 234th Independence Day. >> Happy July 4! >> >> Every schoolchild in America knows why we celebrate the Fourth of >> July. >> Flags and fireworks commemorate the day we declared our independence >> from Britain. >> >> On July 4, 1776, after months of heated debate, representatives of >> the Continental Congress voted unanimously that, These United >> Colonies are and of right ought to be Free and Independent States. >> >> Thirteen colonies voted to become something new in historythe United >> States of America. Now, all they had to do was win their independence >> from a government that would consider them traitors. >> >> Fifty-six men bravely affixed their signatures to the Declaration of >> Independence. What sort of men were they? And what became of them? >> >> Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists, 11 were merchants and nine were >> farmers or plantation owners. They were well-educated men of means. >> All of them had a great deal to lose when they voted to defy what was >> then the most powerful nation on earth. Yet they willingly risked >> everything when they pledged to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, >> and > our sacred Honor. >> >> As I said, all of us can explain why we celebrate Independence Day on >> July 4th. But how many of us can name even a handful of the signers >> of the Declaration of Independence? How much do we know, really, >> about the men who risked their lives and everything they owned in the >> cause of > freedom? >> >> Because the story of the signers is so inspiring, weve arranged a >> special treat for you todaya free copy of a wonderful little book >> called They Signed For Us. >> >> Half a century ago two patriotic ladies in the Midwest wanted to help >> others learn more about the remarkable men who signed the >> Declaration. >> Merle Sinclair and Annabel Douglas McArthur wrote a delightful book >> about the events of that time, including a history of each of the >> signers. They called it, They Signed For Us. >> >> At the end of todays column, youll find a link that will take you >> to >> a free copy of the book. You may read it online or download it and >> print your own copy. The file also includes a list of all of the >> signers and the states they represented, plus the complete text of >> the > Declaration of Independence. >> >> To whet your appetite a bit, heres an excerpt from They Signed For >> Us. >> >> SUDDENLY THE BIG BELL in the State House steeple pealed joyously. >> The >> appointed signal! Cheers rose from the waiting crowds. >> >> Proclaim liberty throughout the land . >> >> Cannon boomed, drums rolled. Church bells rang, sounding the death >> knell of British domination! >> >> News of the adoption of the Declaration of Independence spread like >> wildfire. Ready messengers leaped into their saddles to ride and >> spread the word. The Declaration had been ordered printed on a single >> large sheet, >> 45.5 x 37.5 cm., or approximately 18 inches by 15 inches. These >> broadsides were distributed with all possible speed, to be read in >> the >> provincial assemblies, pulpits, market places, and army camps. >> >> The story continues: >> >> On July 8, the Liberty Bell summoned citizens of Philadelphia to the >> State House yard for a public reading of the document. Colonel John >> Nixon mounted a high platform and spoke the noble lines in a strong, >> clear voice. The crowd, now hushed, listened intently throughout. >> >> for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the >> protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our >> Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor. >> >> It was almost a month later that the Declaration was engrossed on >> parchment and ready for signing by the delegates to the Continental >> Congress. Members gathered on Aug. 2 for the ceremony. >> >> The only person who had signed the Declaration on July 4 was John >> Hancock, a delegate from Boston who had been elected president of the >> Continental Congress. He wrote his signature in large, bold letters >> and as he did, in a reference to the near-sightedness of the >> British king, > he declared, There! >> John Bull can read my name without spectacles and may now double his >> reward of £500 for my head. That is my defiance. >> >> As the delegates gathered around a desk to sign the Declaration, >> William Emery, one of the representatives from Rhode Island, moved as >> close as he could. I was determined to see how they all looked as >> they signed what might be their death warrants, he later wrote. I >> placed myself beside the secretary, Charles Thomson, and eyed each >> closely as he affixed his name to the document. Undaunted >> resolution was > displayed on every countenance. >> >> Contrasting with Hancocks confident signature was the shaky scratch >> of Stephen Hopkins from Rhode Island. Hopkins was the second-oldest >> signer and suffered from palsy. As he handed the quill to the next >> person, he valiantly proclaimed, My hand trembles, but my heart does > not! >> >> As one or two delegates hung back, seemingly reluctant to add their >> signatures to such a momentous declaration, John Hancock encouraged >> them. >> We must be unanimous, he said. There must be no pulling >> different ways. >> We must all hang together. >> >> Legend has it that Benjamin Franklin replied, Yes, we must all hang >> together. Or most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. >> >> Happily, none of the signers was hanged by the British. But all of >> them were considered traitors to the Crown. And many of them suffered >> terribly for the cause they so ardently supported. >> >> When New Jersey signer Richard Stockton returned to his home after >> signing the Declaration he learned that British troops were coming to >> arrest him. He fled to a neighbors house with his wife and children. >> But a Loyalist (as supporters of the British cause were called) >> betrayed the familys hiding place. Here is how Merle Sinclair and >> Annabel Douglas McArthur describe what happened to him: >> >> The judge was dragged from bed and beaten, then thrown into prison. >> This distinguished jurist, who had worn the handsome robes of a >> colonial court, now shivered in a common jail, abused and all but >> starved. >> >> A shocked Congress arranged for his parole. Invalided by the harsh >> treatment he had received, he returned to [his home at] Morven to >> find >> his furniture and clothing burned, his fine horses stolen, and his >> libraryone of the finest private collections in the >> countrycompletely destroyed. The hiding place of exquisite family >> silver, hastily buried, had been betrayed by a servant. >> >> The Stocktons were so destitute that they had to accept charity. >> For >> the judges fortune was gone, too. He had pledged it and his life to >> his country. He lost both. He did not live to see the Revolution >> won. >> >> John Morton, a delegate from Pennsylvania, was the first of the >> signers to die. His last words for his family, before his death in >> April 1777 (just eight months after he signed the Declaration), were, >> tell them that they will live to see the hour when they shall >> acknowledge it to have been the most glorious service I ever >> rendered to > my country. >> >> The following month Button Gwinnett, the commander in chief of >> Georgias militia, was badly wounded in a duel with a political >> opponent. He died a few days laterthe second signer to die. >> >> But by and large, the signers of the Declaration of Independence were >> a hardy bunch. Three of them lived until their 90sa remarkable >> accomplishment in a time when most men did not see their 50th >> birthday. >> >> Only two of the signers were bachelors. Sixteen of them married >> twice. >> Records indicate that at least two, and perhaps as many as six, were >> childless. But the other 50 signers were a prolific lot, having a >> total of >> 325 children between them! William Ellerey of Rhode Island had 17 >> children; Roger Sherman of Connecticut had 15. >> >> Fifty years after the united colonies declared their independence >> from >> Britain, plans were made for jubilant celebrations on July 4, 1826. >> Only three of the original signers were still aliveCharles Carroll, >> Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. Here is how Sinclair and McArthur >> describe what occurred that day: >> >> In a dramatic climax that even their agile minds would not have >> contemplated, these two principals in the struggle for Independence >> left the nation awestricken and touched, by dying hours apart on the > Fourth of July. >> Jefferson died at one oclock in the afternoon, Adams toward >> evening. >> >> Ten days earlier Jefferson had written the mayor of Washington, >> expressing his regret that ill health prevented him from coming to >> the >> nations new Capitol to join the festivities. >> >> I should, indeed, with peculiar delight, have met with the small >> band, the remnant of that host of worthies, who joined with us on >> that >> day, in the bold and doubtful election we were to make for our >> country, between the submission or the sword. >> >> And he concluded by writing, Let the annual return of this day >> forever refresh our recollection of these rights, and an undiminished >> devotion to them. >> >> As part of that undiminished devotion, we are delighted to provide >> you with a free copy of They Signed For Us. Please click here >> [1]for it. >> >> And please share this copy of Straight Talk with others you know so >> they may enjoy it as well. Just forward this column with a short note >> urging them to read about the incredibly brave patriots who won our >> freedom for us when They Signed For Us. >> >> Until next time, keep some powder dry. >> >> Chip Wood >> >> Related Posts >> >> Eating Certain Cheeses May Help Boost Immunity Among The Elderly [2] >> Jim Rogers quarrel with CNBC [3] Lung patients may benefit from >> lifestyle changes, research shows [4] Obama Lays Out Job Creation >> Strategy, Fires Back At Political Foes [5] Gold Quietly Marshalling >> Strength [6] Article printed from Personal Liberty Digest: >> http://www.personalliberty.com >> >> URL to article: >> http://www.personalliberty.com/liberty/they-signed-for-us-2/ >> >> URLs in this post: >> >> [1] click here : >> http://www.personalliberty.com/straighttalk/bonus/TheySignedForUs.pdf >> [2] Eating Certain Cheeses May Help Boost Immunity Among The >> Elderly : >> http://www.personalliberty.com/news/eating-certain-cheeses-may-help- >> bo >> ost-im >> munity-among-the-elderly-19782624/ >> [3] Jim Rogers quarrel with CNBC: >> http://www.personalliberty.com/feature-video/jim-rogers-quarrel- >> with-c >> nbc/ [4] Lung patients may benefit from lifestyle changes, research >> shows : >> http://www.personalliberty.com/news/lung-patients-may-benefit-from- >> lif >> estyle >> -changes-research-shows-19256879/ >> [5] Obama Lays Out Job Creation Strategy, Fires Back At Political >> Foes: >> http://www.personalliberty.com/news/obama-lays-out-job-creation- >> strate >> gy-fir >> es-back-at-political-foes-19502330/ >> [6] Gold Quietly Marshalling Strength: >> http://www.personalliberty.com/preserving-wealth/gold-quietly- >> marshall >> ing-st >> rength/ >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------ >> ---- >> WISPA Wants You! 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