Exactly Patrick.

The rural telco's in my coverage area are getting those $$$$ per telephone
served. They are not going to give it up without a fight. The only
recourse would be to distribute USF funds across the providers providing
Internet access and Land line access. That will not happen.

Scottie

> You'd think there would be an excellent legal argument to fight that.
> Seems it'd be difficult to enact a law that in effect discriminates
> against certain classes of providers, especially since WISPs are the
> only "pure play" broadband providers out there. Theorectically the
> re-configured USF is meant to propel broadband...so how could the feds
> exclude the only entity that provides broadband first, other services
> second. All other providers have "broadband" as a secondary play.
>
>
> Patrick Leary
> Aperto Networks
> 813.426.4230 mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian Webster
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:02 AM
> To: 'Fred Goldstein'; 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Reform Bill Introduced - The most
> compellingreason to document and map your network coverage ever
>
> Fred,
>       That is understood, however I think that WISPA may try to lobby
> to have the term "wireline" removed such that any technology that
> delivers the defined broadband and voice services should be qualified to
> meet the 75% requirement. This is still a bill and not a law so there
> are opportunities to change this although I don't expect that one to go
> through without a fight. In this case we might be able to ally ourselves
> with the cable industry. I am sure they would love to see Telco's lose
> their USF subsidies in markets that are served by cable.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Goldstein [mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:42 AM
> To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Reform Bill Introduced - The most compelling
> reason to document and map your network coverage ever
>
> At 7/29/2010 08:01 AM, Brian wrote:
>>Hit me off list and I can offer some suggestions.
>
> As I mentioned, the 75% rule only applies to wireline providers (i.e.,
> cable), so mapping WISP coverage buys nothing.
>
> The Boucher-Terry bill has nothing in it to help WISPs and plenty to
> hurt them, including a rather high tax to support your competitors.
>
>
>
>>Brian
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>Behalf Of RickG
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:24 PM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Reform Bill Introduced - The most compelling
> reason
>>to document and map your network coverage ever
>>
>>I'd like to but I dont know where to begin and with my limited time I
>>cant even try to figure it out.
>>
>>On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Brian Webster
>><bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
>> > Steve Coran just posted the message below to the WISPA FCC committee
> list.
>>I
>> > took particular note to the following statement:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - would reduce or deny support to wireline incumbents in areas where
> at
>> > least 75% of households can receive voice and broadband from a
> competitive
>> > provider that does not receive support
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Now the way I read the above statement is that if a WISP covers 75%
> of a
>> > current USF recipients service area, there will no longer be
> eligibility
>>to
>> > receive USF funds. Remember if they have broadband they also have
> access
>>to
>> > many VOIP providers even if you do not provide VOIP services. Vonage
> and
>> > Skype come to mind, not to mention cellular coverage. This would be
> a
> huge
>> > factor in leveling the playing field for WISP's in rural markets! I
> cannot
>> > see a more compelling reason to document and map your networks than
> this.
>> > Not only will it prevent yet another subsidized competitor from
> coming
> in
>>to
>> > your service area, but it will also erode funding  for any Telco who
>> > currently receives USF in your markets. This would bring wireless as
> a
>> > delivery method to the forefront because there are then no
> artificial
>> > revenue streams subsidizing the cost to deliver last mile service.
> We
> all
>> > know that wireless has the least cost per household passed in low
> density
>> > markets.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > There are many ways to document and map your coverage areas. First
> and
>> > foremost though is that you should file the Form 477 as required.
> Next
> one
>> > should map their network with an accurate service area where you
> would
>> > confidently offer service. This can be done many ways (including
> paying
> me
>> > to do it). This also shows a very important reason to be
> participating
> in
>> > your state broadband mapping efforts. I would expect that those
> state
> maps
>> > will become one of the major verification sources to establish the
> 75%
>> > coverage. The FCC 477 database will probably become another
> verification
>> > source. If you are listed in both of them it would be very hard for
>>someone
>> > to say you don't exist and don't offer coverage in their areas.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > One of the downsides to this bill is that all broadband providers
> will
> be
>> > required to contribute to the fund. My gut feeling though is that if
>>WISP's
>> > were accurately mapped and documented it would show so much less of
> the
> US
>> > is unserved by broadband and thus the required funding through USF
> to
> get
>>it
>> > there will be much less.
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Last week, Reps. Boucher (D-VA) and Terry (R-NE) introduced
> legislation
>>that
>> > would reform the Universal Service Fund.  The Press Release,
> Overview,
>> > Section by Section summary and text of the bill are available at
> this
>>link:
>> >
>> >
>>http://www.boucher.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=
> 1579
> &
>>Itemid=122
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have not read these documents, but plan to do so soon.  A few
> highlights
>> > that the trade press has noted:
>> >
>> >     - would reduce or deny support to wireline incumbents in areas
> where
>>at
>> > least 75% of households can receive voice and broadband from a
> competitive
>> > provider that does not receive support
>> >
>> >     - FCC would create cost model that includes broadband in
> figuring
>> > support models
>> >
>> >     - competitive bidding among wireless carriers for USF support
>> >
>> >     - no more than two wireless CETCs could get support in the same
> area
>> >
>> >     - carriers would have 5 years to provide broadband throughout
> their
>> > service areas, or would lose support
>> >
>> >     - all broadband providers would pay into USF to expand
> contribution
>>base
>> >
>> >     - FCC to decide appropriate speed for broadband
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Rep. Boucher has said that the bill is on his "front burner" and
> that he
>> > wants to get the legislation passed this Fall.  Please feel free to
>>comment
>> > on-list AFTER you've reviewed the documents so that you can promote
>> > education of the WISPA membership and help shape whatever position
> WISPA
>>may
>> > wish to take as the bill works its way through Congress.  Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Stephen E. Coran
>> >
>> > Rini Coran, PC
>> >
>> > 1140 19th Street, NW, Suite 600
>> >
>> > Washington, D.C. 20036
>> >
>> > 202.463.4310 - voice
>> >
>> > 202.669.3288 - cell
>> >
>> > 202.296.2014 - fax
>> >
>> > sco...@rinicoran.com - e-mail
>> >
>> > www.rinicoran.com
>> >
>> > www.telecommunicationslaw.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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