At 7/30/2010 12:21 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>So you are wanting a dual pol panel with N male connectors?

Basically, yes, though it doesn't have to be N per se.  (I'm not 
picky, so long as the whole thing is suitable for outdoor use in a 
seriously rugged climate with lots of lake effect snow.)

BTW I do notice a Proxim three-polarization antenna, which I suppose 
could work with the SR71-A, but that seems like overkill, and it only 
has 17 dB gain, which puts it into the sector category.  They also 
have a dual-pol 23 dB unit.  They call these subscriber units but I 
suppose they could work anywhere.  Of course the Proxim stuff comes 
at a Proxim price; I could probably gut a Powerbridge for half as much.

>Steve Barnes
>RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
>Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:14 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] MIMO 5.8 GHz panel antennas?
>
>The trouble with the Powerbridge is that it has the radio built in, 
>and is thus an Ethernet hop away from the switch (probably a 
>Routerboard), and one more active device to manage.  Also, since a 
>Ubiquiti card drives the radio, it can only run in Airmax or 802.11 
>mode, not however the Routerboard might be able to drive it (for 
>exmmple, MT's new nv2 mode).
>
>What I want is the Powerbridge's antenna by itself!  That would be 
>exactly what I'm looking for. ARC Wireless makes a "panel antenna 
>for IES", but again that presumes a Routerboard-class radio built 
>in.  Would it work with just, uh, cable jumpers to an outboard radio?
>
>BTW I'm using RadioMobile to calculate paths, and while the one in 
>question "works", it is not a perfect one; it shows some Fresnel 
>zone interference along the way, since it's hilly terrain.  I may 
>have to raise or lower the antenna a foot or two to avoid nulls.
>
>At 7/30/2010 11:59 AM, you wrote:
> >Yea, it's wrong. Try something besides MCS14 or MCS15 on their
> >calculator, or a better link calculator. I've got NB22's with +25
> >deployed at 10 miles.
> >
> >Regards
> >Michael Baird
> > > http://www.ubnt.com/linkcalculator/
> > >
> > > Says that this would be a marginal signal at 10 miles. (16090
> > meters) for the PowerBridge M5  link margin 14.4
> > >
> > > Steve Barnes
> > > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird
> > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:28 AM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MIMO 5.8 GHz panel antennas?
> > >
> > > They have a Powerbridge M5 that includes a 25 db MIMO panel.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Michael Baird
> > >
> > >> I wonder if any of you have experience with 5.8 GHz MIMO antennas.
> > >> I'm trying to design a point-to-point link, about 10 miles, that
> > >> will carry a high percentage of a whole network's backhaul.  So I'd
> > >> like it to go at about 80 Mbps, MCS 12 in 20 MHz.
> > >> The UBNT SR71-15 card can plug into a Routerboard and thus feed two
> > >> antennas, or a dual-polarized antenna.  I'd rather have one antenna
> > >> than two.  I can find dual-feed 2' dishes, but they're on the large
> > >> side, with wind load and visibility issues.  And I see a lot of
> > >> single-feed panels, which can handle 11a-type traffic.
> > >>
> > >> I can run Ethernet into an external radio that comes in a panel,
> > >> but that adds a hop and more complexity, and frankly most of the
> > >> specs don't match the SR71-15's.  There will be at least three
> > >> antennas at each end, possibly four (backhaul plus local access).
> > >> MiniPCI radios in, say, an RB600 seem easier to deal with.
> > >>
> > >> But who makes a standalone 5.8 GHz dual-polarized panel, something
> > >> the
> > >> 22-25 dB range (13-16")?  UBNT makes MIMO sector antennas, and
> > >> makes panels with built-in radios, but it doesn't seem to have a
> > >> PTP panel antenna to mate with the SR71-15.  ARC has one that works
> > >> with its built-in enclosure system; do I just leave the enclosure
> > >> empty and route the cables through it?  (Seems hokey.)  RADwin has
> > >> one designed for its own system; I don't know how well it would
> > >> work otherwise and it's way expensive.  Suggestions?  Thanks!
> > >>
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