It's all in the install. UBNT makes quality products. A poor install can happen with anything.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:37 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT thoughts Where we have seen a difference in value of equipment is in the failure/repair rate. Ours is horrible. The success or failure of build-em-yourself radios depends GREATLY on the quality of the install/installer (we have alot of StarOS, alot of weatherproofing tape, alot of pigtails, alot of jumpers). With UBNT, we are hoping to get a good balance between price of CPE and reduce the chance of carelessness costing us a service call down the road. For instance, I used Tranzeo for a while (a couple hundred of them - integrated antenna models), and those CPE either worked or died, but never had install quality problems. So, there is value in equipment if it facilitates easy quick installs and doesn't require a service call later because of a stupid pigtail not being connected to the radio quite right. ----- Original Message ----- From: Faisal Imtiaz <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net> To: WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT thoughts Those prices are crazy... yes.. but the are here and I believe that they will stay like this for a while.. AT&T is fighting to compensate for it's declining business in phone lines. and Comcast is eagerly looking to eat AT&T's lunch. I agree with you about sticking with Moto if and when they come thru.. but you will also have to calculate your ROI.. I don't understand your comment about Moto having sync and same Throughput as UBNT MIMO ? ... are you referring to PMP430 ... I thought that was 802.11n & MIMO as well. Would love to hear some comparison for feedback on the PMP430.... The links we are putting up are capable of doing 30-75meg (tcp thruput) in 20mhz channel and about 60-150meg (tcp thuput) in 40mhz channel. The gear is cheap.. so we are choosing to build towers/pop to service a 5mile radius tops. The trick is to use the dual polarity antennas (from UBNT) and with the "M" radios, rather than trying to hack some sort of a hybird.. (there are folks who are doing that for transition purposes). The equipment is in-expensive... so why do an "Omni" ..... I am not so worried about the plastic radios, I am also not looking for them to last 10 years either... So far, we have not seen any issues in running VOIP on these links either... but then again, we are not needing to put 200 subs on a single AP either. For right now, they are a great "tool" in the tool bag, until someone else steps up to the plate. So far all of the other MIMO, 802.11n radio producers have offered rather expensive PTP solutions only... It is hard to figure out it is worth it to pay an extra $1500 or $2000 per link for another mfg's MIMO PTP solution vs UBNT. Time will tell.... meanwhile for us.. have to use what is available... Supposedly, Firing up UBNT Radios with Airmax on them, gives a lot of grief to Moto Canopy.... and I am very much interested to see how their 802.11n implementation on 900mhz performs.... what they are showing on their spec sheets is definetly making everyone shake their heads and say... " I really want to see that to believe it.." ...we will find in out about 45 days when the radios become available in the US. Loosely speaking, don't let anyone tell you that there is value in Equipment, I have a backroom full of $150,000(each)Redback Routers which are not worth $1500each any more....For a WISP or ISP the value is purely in the subscriber base.... there is some intrinsic value in equipment, to the degree that can be leveraged to add more revenue generating services...... Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net
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