That is the way my network is setup using a cisco router at the core. No problems that I am aware of.
Sent from my iPhone4 On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Fred Goldstein <fgoldst...@ionary.com> wrote: > At 9/17/2010 08:52 AM, Bret Clark wrote: >> I would have to agree...you could switch to all UBNT, but whose to say they >> will handle a large bridging network any better? I think before making any >> kind hardware change, you need to convert the network into a routed >> environment to control traffic. > > In between bridging and routing, there's switching. This uses VLAN tags or > their equivalent (DLCIs, etc.) to identify streams, rather than MAC addresses > as in bridging. Switching doesn't propagate broadcasts the way bridging > wants to. It's simpler than MPLS, since Cisco didn't develop it ;-) , but > does allow the assignment of CIR. The fiber world is doing a lot of Carrier > Ethernet switching. The small WISP-oriented routers could too, though I > don't know how good the support is yet. They may not have caught on to it. > Has anyone tried it on RouterOS or similar OSs? > >> On 09/17/2010 08:39 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: >>> If it’s all bridged then ARP tables fill up, memory runs low, and all >>> kinds of things happen. I know Forbes has mentioned a bridged network >>> on here before. I would put your money into routing the network and then >>> get rid of the mikrotiks if they are still problems after the routing is >>> done. You will be amazed at how much a routed network will improve the >>> quality of the network. There are other things he could try to hunt down, >>> but until all that bridging is stopped it will be an uphill battle. >>> >>> Justin >>> -- >>> Justin Wilson <j...@mtin.net> >>> http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News >>> http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter >>> Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Forbes Mercy < forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> >>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:27:25 -0700 >>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik >>> >>> How my day ended, I really don't mean to slight Mikrotik or it's >>> dealers. People who route their networks will have a fraction of the >>> problems I have but I have to admit the excuse of "must be your employees" >>> or " that never happens" got old about 20 outages ago. Today I had 8 major >>> outages, 4 of them we found a bridge or ports erased and the IP displaying >>> 0.0.0.0. This was an easy fix, log in and add the bridge and ports then >>> click on the IP and it came back legitimate again. Shame we had to make >>> the trip to the towers to do that. The other 4 not so easy, they showed >>> the IP correctly but not in Winbox and they had the MAC address as >>> 00.00.00.00.00, well 12 times, you get it. Those we had to pull the >>> backhaul and reset it then reprogram it. A hellish day but we didn't miss >>> the fact that the UBNT units never crashed no matter what this crazy >>> bridging issue was. It was just a real bad day to be in this business but >>> I appreciate the help that I got from Mikrotik dealers who really care to >>> help resolve this but are as equally frustrated as I was, while aging about >>> 3 years in one day. Like watching a baby sleep the night is uneventful >>> after a 15 hour work day and my with my added worry about taking 4 vacation >>> days this weekend. I wish I could trust the equipment from overreacting to >>> every damn bit of unfriendly traffic by shutting down the LAN port or >>> resetting the radio but I can't, it's my employees problem now but it will >>> certainly take away from the joy of my time off since I know their attitude >>> is more like, 'let them wait' then my feeling of 'people down is lost >>> income', employees.... >>> >>> Forbes >>> >>> On 9/16/2010 7:44 PM, RickG wrote: >>> For me, the StarOS/WRAP combo performed very well since 2004. The only >>> issues I had were coax related. Otherwise, I agree, I dont like equipment >>> you have to put together. I save my tinkering around for personal stuff but >>> much rather have a fully designed radio for commercial purposes. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Mark Nash - Lists <markl...@uwol.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> There's something to be said for "losing faith" in a technology. For me, >>> it's the "build-it-yourself" radios. All of them. Mikrotik & StarOS. For >>> me, I see such a high service call rate for repairs, the need to put in >>> redundant backhauls sooner than later because we can almost guarantee >>> something's going to malfunction. >>> >>> Ubiquiti has brought to us good enough pricing to have us make the "leap of >>> faith" and hopefully their product is more stable over time, keeping much >>> of >>> the success or failure of a unit out of the hands of the installer. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Forbes Mercy" < forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:04 AM >>> Subject: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik >>> >>> >>> > I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every >>> > Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios and replace them with UBNIT. >>> > I'm sick and tired of spending all last night because two radios just >>> > dropped their IP setting to 0.0.0.0 and the other MAC to 0.0.0.0, today >>> > another system storm crash, what stayed up, my two Ubiquiti towers. 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