Is that not what I said? If the contour does not cover you, then its a open channel. If you have a contour on say ch 3, and one on 7, then you have to stay off 4 and 6, and can use 5, 3 open channels at least. (Ignoring that 3&4 are not usable, numbers are for example use only). I welcome your KMZ of the contours. I have made my own filter apps to sort and filter the fcc db, mainly for microwave links and tower locations. The spectrum bridge map does not work well for me, crashing often (both linux and windows) with tile errors.
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Brian Webster <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote: > Not quite, if there is a station that has a contour that covers your desired > area, you have to also stay off the channel above and below it in your area. > You would protecting their first adjacent channel. There may be some > exceptions to the rule for certain channels. I'll be reading the report and > order to look for those. There is also a need to protect I believe a 60 km > buffer along the Mexican and Canadian border for VHF channels and I think a > 40 KM buffer on the Mexican border in UHF. There are also certain cities > that were granted use of a UHF channel for land mobile radio systems called > the T-Band. Not sure if the first adjacent channel for those needs > protecting. > > When I finish the whitespaces mapping tool I will try my best to note those > exceptions in the file somehow. There are also some ship to shore phone > systems that are worth mentioning. The spectrum bridge interactive map shows > all of these areas. > > As mentioned previously in other messages, channels 3,4 and 37 are off > limits as well. > > > > Brian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:33 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Today is a Momentous Day for our Industry - Sept. 23rd, > 2010 > > That is pretty nice. Unless I am mistaken, you need 3 open channels in > a row and use the middle one, correct? > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote: >> Hello Mark, >> >> Thank-you for your comments and thanks in advance for agreeing not to use >> the available TV White Space channels in your area. That will leave those >> open for another WISP to use. >> >> Thank you again and best regards, >> >> jack >> >> >> On 9/25/2010 12:41 AM, MDK wrote: >> >> I’m not trying to throw cold water on you, but before anyone gets > themselves >> all excited, they better make use of the spectrumbridge tool and see if > they >> have ANY available channels. I'm relatively rural and I have ONLY 2-9. >> All other frequencies are either adjacent to in use or in use. And, at > the >> low frequencies in use, I sort of doubt it will be well supported. > Antenna >> issues for 2-6 make one wonder if it'll be used much at all. That's >> BELOW the FM band, and making use of antenna gain involves airplane size >> antennas. I'm not saying it can't work, but there's huge issues, making >> the range and practicality small. >> >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> From: Rick Harnish >> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:07 PM >> To: memb...@wispa.org ; 'WISPA General List' ; motor...@afmug.com >> Subject: [WISPA] Today is a Momentous Day for our Industry - Sept. 23rd, >> 2010 >> >> Today’s FCC decision to open up the TV Whitespaces for unlicensed > operations >> is a decision that validates the WISP industry, WISPA, it’s members and > the >> “grassroots” efforts we have achieved since our birth in 2004. I would > like >> to thank all of the WISP operators who have joined this movement and have >> supported our efforts to improve our industry’s stake in the Broadband >> Service business landscape. >> >> >> >> WISPA isn’t a business; it is a well defined “association” of member >> companies that have common interests and a drive to improve their >> businesses. It is quite remarkable what we can all do when we combine our >> forces. Today’s M&O on the TV Whitespaces included “WISPA” 88 times! We >> (WISPA) are now a household name with most of the lobbying groups (both >> opposition and supporters) in the broadband industry, the FCC and many >> legislators. We still need to work on the legislative lobbying effort and >> that will take each of our members to write to their congressman and >> senators, meet them personally and tell them our stories and successes. >> Although it may be out of many operator’s comfort zone, it should be noted >> that they (legislators) all get up and get dressed every morning just like >> you and I. They are often former neighbors and have a passion to serve >> their local service areas, just like we do. We need to befriend these >> influential people and relay our passion to extend broadband ubiquitously. >> >> >> >> We estimate there are 2000-3000 WISPs in the USA. Nearly 400 have joined >> and support WISPA. We can further benefit our industry with greater >> participation from those who continue to sit on the sidelines. We invite >> those WISPs to join the rest of the operators by joining WISPA at >> http://signup.wispa.org. 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