Another item for us to do: Peer, aggregate bandwidth and save money. As you
said, thing like the big guys.

On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net>wrote:

>  .. Correction / Point:-
>   The ISP  Model is built on OverSubcription.. the Telco's 'generate'
> internet traffic or in otherwords 'peer' so their capacity cost is dictated
> by equipment and infrastructure maintenance cost.
>
> The price for anything is arbitrary based on their desired profit level.
>
> @ $100/month the services START becoming profitable, as WISP's & ISP's may
> not have much of Add-on Services to keep increasing that number, the Telco's
> and Cable Co's have plenty of options to raise the monthly tab.
>
> Yes we do have some features that are very much applicable for a 'niche'
> cannot be everything to everyone (e.g. like Cable Co's & TelCo's), and I
> think that is going to hold the key to success for WISP's .
>
> the other option is to look and think beyond.. e.g. make some real /
> serious money so that you can build or pay for infrastructure that one can
> own.. (e.g. wires in the Ground... / CLEC presense @ colo / Fiber Routes /
> Cable Plant etc.etc.)
>
> Regards
> Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas  to all.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>
>
>
> On 12/23/2010 11:53 PM, RickG wrote:
>
>  Frankly, the converse of this is also true... Maybe our services are
>> 'under-priced' to begin with ? We, because of our cut to the bone
>> business model of making little to no profit, choose to sell service at
>> a price that takes a lot of factors into consideration and we may have
>> 'mis-calculated' on the shifting consumer behavior ?
>>
>
>  I've been saying that since 1997 when I was paying $3500 per T1 and I
> bought my first Alott box. The problem is people cant pay for what they use
> and depend on the over-subscription model.
>
>
>> B.  Cost of Communication Services Consumed by folks will go UP. (I say
>> Communication Cost, not Internet Cost.. go back into time, 20 years ago
>> I was spending about $70 on Phone service, $35 on cable Tv... Today, it
>> is something like $35 voip/Home Phone + $50 Internet DSL + $70 Cable Tv
>> Service + $250 Cell Phone + data Plan..... Over time this will
>> consolidate, and the Telco's and cable Co's are fighting to keep as big
>> as a share the can off it... Plus there are other pay for services HD /
>> DvR / Special Programing etc etc that can  kick in another $100 / month
>> from the subscribers...
>>
>
>  Can anyone make any money providing all that for $100 or less?
>
>
>> Unfortunately, the WISP's may not have "other addons" to make money from
>> .... personally, when ever I do the un-adulterated business math, I keep
>> coming up with conclusions that .. when Gross Revenue from a Subscriber
>> hits south of $50/month, it is very difficult to turn healthy profit..
>> when it starts to approach $100/month, things start looking a lot more
>> reasonable and business like.  This is very much true for the Cable Co's
>> and the Telco's as well.
>>
>
>  We do have one feature - upload bandwidth. I havent marketed it yet but
> with Facebook and such being so popular I hear people grumbling about upload
> speed on their DSL & cable.
>
>>  --
>>
>  -RickG
>
>
>
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