At 2/13/2011 12:39 PM, you wrote:
>I live in one of these rural coop areas. I bet the rates here are much lower
>than the people in the city pay. The last home telephone I had(2008) ran me
>around $24/mth including all taxes, etc... with no long distance. The telco
>workers make twice to three times the hourly prevailing wage in this area,
>but on par with what a telco worker would make in say New Jersey. I think
>something is flawed in this? They are supposed to be non-profit and they
>making so much money, instead of giving it back to the coop members, they
>just give everyone raises and bonuses. I would like to know just how much
>they get in USF in my area.

Who's your telco, where?  The USF numbers are public and I have 
downloaded some fairly recent ones.

Coops sometimes do give back their excess revenues to members; this 
essentially reduces the net price to something much less than urban 
customers pay for their own service... in effect they're also paying 
for the coop's service.

>"> Oh, voice?  Well, the real scandal of USF is that the ILEC-ETC is
> > allowed to do practically anything so long as it's useful for
> > voice.  They can build Fiber to the Ranch, for $20,000+/home (CapEx)
> > or more, or $1000/month per sub (though they propose making it harder
> > to get >$250/line/mo), if it also delivers voice, *even if* they
> > already have copper to the ranch *and* an unlicensed WISP.  Check out
> > Border to Border in Texas.  So USF does fund broadband; it just does
> > it indirectly, by letting them build a broadband-ready network with
> > subsidy money.  The ISP they run across it is then "incidental", not
> > *directly* subsidized, but if the wire or fiber is already there, how
> > much does more it cost to drop on broadband Internet?  Thanks to this
> > policy, many rural ILECs have better broadband coverage than
> > unsubsidized Bells."
>
>This is the one that really gets under my skin. I compete against it every
>day and they get BIP/BTOP funding in addition. I think they need to FORCE
>every company getting funding from the government or USF to either separate
>their ISP/telco activities and resell to any ISP at the same rate as their
>ISP, or be FORCED to open their network for other ISP's to use at a
>competitive rate. I guess you could say I would like to see it got back to
>the Computer Inquiries.

I sure agree on that!  But then I think the Computer Inquiries should 
apply to all ILECs, permanently.

>Nice explanation Fred.

Thanks.

>Scottie
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com>
>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:48 PM
>Subject: [WISPA] A quick primer on USF
>
>
> > First off, this last thread's title was offensive, so I changed
> > it.  The current Administration is not doing much that previous ones
> > didn't do, and that's the problem.  The FCC sees the spectrum as a
> > source of revenue (auctions), and Congress sees the FCC as a source
> > of subsidy money to rural states.
> >
> > USF exists because the Telecom Act requires it.  USF replaced an even
> > uglier system wherein rural telcos charged really really high
> > switched access per minute rates to LD carriers at either end of the
> > call.  VoIP would have killed that anyway... so now there are
> > explicit cash subsidies.
> >
> > Let's set aside the smaller parts of USF (Schools & Libraries, Rural
> > Health Care, and Low Income) and focus on the one on the table now,
> > High Cost Support.  This is the one that gets the bulk of the tax
> > money anyway.  The statutory requirement is that rural telephone
> > rates be comparable (not identical) to urban ones.  So if it really
> > costs $100/month to provide telephone service in East Overshoe, then
> > the East Overshoe Telephone Cooperative is entitled to USF to let
> > them hold down the rate.
> >
> > But it's a lot more complicated than that.  Cost is averaged across a
> > "study area", which is in general the operating territory of one
> > (historic, pre-merger) telephone company in one state.  So South
> > Central Bell- Mississippi is one study area, and South Central Bell-
> > Tennessee is another.  Verizon has at least two study areas in
> > California, though, one ex-Contel and one ex-GTE.  CenturyTel has a
> > heap of them all over the place, as does TDS.
> >
> > The point of averaging across a study area is that low-cost urban
> > areas cross-subsidize high-cost rural ones.  So Qwest in Omaha is
> > supposed to subsidize Qwest in the rural parts of Nebraska.  Thus the
> > big recipients are the small telephone companies who do not have
> > urban areas.  That would be bad enough, but a small telephone company
> > typically has a separate corporate structure, including IT, CS, etc.,
> > which supports very few subscribers.  So the OpEx per subscriber can
> > be really high too, because small telcos are inefficient.  If TDS or
> > CenturyTel buys them, they often keep the study areas separate...
> > cost goes down but the money still flows!  (The pending NPRM does
> > however at least open the issue of merging study areas.)  And the
> > Bells, especially Qwest/USWest, have sold off a lot of rural
> > areas.  So they have lowered their average cost. This doesn't lower
> > their rate, though, because they don't get USF anyway, and they are
> > on price caps, not rate of return, so they keep their rates and raise
> > their margins.  The rural chains that buy the rural turf eventually
> > (this takes a couple of years, though again the pending NPRM may
> > reduce this interval, which the FCC cutely calls "The Parent Trap")
> > get new subsidy flows for them.  So we're screwed both ways.
> >
> > When TA96 passed, the FCC at the time was pro-competition (Hundt,
> > Kennard) and they wanted to make USF pro-competition too.  So they
> > created the "Equal Support Rule".  This is a tiny bit like Jeremie's
> > suggested voucher system.  A USF-eligible carrier is called an ETC
> > (eligible telecommunications carrier). A Competitive ETC (CETC) could
> > move into an area whose ILEC got USF.  The CETC would then get the
> > same amount *per line* as the ILEC-ETC.  So if East Overshoe
> > Telephone got $80/month/line, then Northern Wireless could get
> > $80/month/line for selling a fixed-wireless telephone line (using
> > their cellular network and a POTS-phone adapter).  Northern Wireless
> > (I made that name up but it alludes to a once-huge CETC) would not
> > need to show its own costs, as competitors don't fit the ILEC accounting
> > model.
> >
> > Now you'd think that this was a great idea, like a voucher, but it
> > had a big problem.  The ILEC-ETC is usually under Rate of Return
> > regulation.  So their profit margin is fixed.  Most of their costs
> > are fixed too.  So if the CETC takes lines away, the ILEC-ETC is
> > still entitled to keep the subsidy level needed to maintain their
> > rate of return and the same low prices.  So they keep their subsidy,
> > and USF ends up paying twice!  This is the FCC's justification for
> > wanting to do away with competitive ETCs entirely -- they could have
> > simply removed Equal Support, but they're killing CETC in toto,
> > regardless of what the law actually says.  A few years ago, they
> > capped CETC support.  If a new CETC comes into an area, their subsidy
> > comes out of other CETCs, no longer equal support.  The total is
> > supposed to phase down to 0 over five years.
> >
> > BTW the biggest CETCs were cellular carriers, including Sprint, AT&T
> > Mobility and its predecessors, and some Verizon Wireless
> > acquisitions.  VZ and I think Sprint agreed to phase out their CETC
> > support as merger conditions.  CLECs got a rather small share of the
> > pie.  WISPS need not apply, since they're not carriers, and the
> > support was technically for voice.
> >
> > Oh, voice?  Well, the real scandal of USF is that the ILEC-ETC is
> > allowed to do practically anything so long as it's useful for
> > voice.  They can build Fiber to the Ranch, for $20,000+/home (CapEx)
> > or more, or $1000/month per sub (though they propose making it harder
> > to get >$250/line/mo), if it also delivers voice, *even if* they
> > already have copper to the ranch *and* an unlicensed WISP.  Check out
> > Border to Border in Texas.  So USF does fund broadband; it just does
> > it indirectly, by letting them build a broadband-ready network with
> > subsidy money.  The ISP they run across it is then "incidental", not
> > *directly* subsidized, but if the wire or fiber is already there, how
> > much does more it cost to drop on broadband Internet?  Thanks to this
> > policy, many rural ILECs have better broadband coverage than
> > unsubsidized Bells.
> >
> > We pay for this.  USF is funded by a tax on "interstate
> > telecommunications". That includes long distance calls, circuits, and
> > interconnected VoIP (assumed 64.9% interstate, IIRC, but I'm typing
> > this off-line on my laptop in a rural location -- I haven't paid VZW
> > for tethering and for some reason it no longer works on my cell phone
> > ;-] ).  This is technically a "fee" rather than "tax" because it
> > doesn't go to the Treasury's General Fund, but it is enforced like a
> > tax (big fines if you don't pay).  It goes to USAC, who runs
> > USF.  It's a self-adjusting tax.  Every quarter, they compute a new
> > rate, and it takes effect automatically.  It started out around 3%
> > and is now around 15.5%.
> >
> > The FCC's new set of proposals has a couple of major impacts.  It
> > continues the phase-out of CETC support.  It also creates a new fund,
> > "Connect America", which explicitly covers "broadband", as if that
> > were a noun.  (Broadband what? It's an adjective.)  This will be
> > distibuted by reverse auction; the ETC who asks the least to serve a
> > given area gets the exclusive support.  If may be the ILEC.  Whether
> > or not it's the ILEC, the ILEC-ETC *continues* to get their current
> > support.  Connect America is incremental.  So the ILECs can get even more.
> >
> > BTW there's a separate pending proposal to create a new USF to fund
> > mobile wireless -- licensed CMRS, not WISP.  This may be related to
> > the recently announced 98% goal, though it seem to me that Verizon
> > had planned that for its LTE network anyway!  BTW the Frontline
> > Wireless plan that almost happened in 2007 was required to have 99.3%
> > population coverage, though (speaking as one of their network
> > designers) that was sort of optimistic, and a sane proposal (that
> > might have happened) would have needed a lower number.
> >
> >  --
> >  Fred Goldstein    k1io   fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
> >  ionary Consulting              http://www.ionary.com/
> >  +1 617 795 2701
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> >
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