It could be you will not find what you want, Rich. Having easy frequencies - your 'own' spectrum, cheap gear from Huawei, and simply mailing the CPE 'dongle' to the customers still runs up against physics: you need to have to pump plenty of power into the air to cover a big area, and even if you do, the dongle will not get the range you want.
I did a deployment earlier this year where the coverage map ended exactly at the property line of my customer, and we were lucky enough that it worked, but there is no way I would have sent out a box and said to the customer that it would really work fine. To have ubiquitous coverage means many more cell sites and much more money for the infrastructure. The WISP, who knows the local area, does the fixed, on-wall outdoor install and can go the distance where the dongle will not, and if there is a coverage gap to be filled, it might be a '$100 problem' or a '$1000 problem' but not a $100,000 problem. It seems your ideal location would be a metropolitan environment where the customers would most likely anyway be better served by wireline or fiber options. Daniel Rich _ <rich.ema...@gmail.com> wrote .. > Then, most WISP operations use unlicensed freqencies? > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Matt Jenkins > <m...@smarterbroadband.net>wrote: > > > ** > > Proprietary equipment in most cases. They also use licensed frequency > > which they pay a premium for. > > > > On 11/28/2011 04:51 PM, Rich _ wrote: > > > > What type of equipment does Clear/OpenRange use that allows a connection > > using one of those 1"x3" USB things? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > > wrote: > > > >> None that I know of. Those are the companies like Clear and OpenRange. > >> That model doesn't seem to financially or operationally/technically work. > >> > >> Most if not all the Wisps here install equipment on vertical space (grain > >> leg, building, tower) and install a CPE on the customer roof. From the CPE > >> side, a lot like satellite. Low profile but it is there. > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> On Nov 28, 2011 7:40 PM, "Rich _" <rich.ema...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> How do the companies that have a dongle do it? Are they using something > >>> other than a WISP? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net>wrote: > >>> > >>>> Rich, > >>>> Given current gear, FCC regulations and available spectrum, outside of > >>>> reselling cellular you are not going to going to find anything you will > >>>> be able to reliable allow the customer to self-install. Trust me, there > >>>> are smarter minds than mine that have been trying to figure that one out > >>>> since this industry started. > >>>> > >>>> As Jay mentioned, Clearwire is probably the closest business model to > >>>> what you are looking for, and even with their deep pockets and licensed > >>>> spectrum they are having a tough time making it work. And I think it is > >>>> precisely because they are choosing to go the route that you are looking > >>>> for. > >>>> > >>>> If they took their spectrum and equipment and used it as traditional, > >>>> professionally installed fixed wireless setup they would probably have a > >>>> working business model. Sure their return on investment would be higher > >>>> due to the installer cost, but if they took a dish-network model to > >>>> getting installs done they would only be looking at 3-6 months break > >>>> even on the install cost and considering the amount of money that has > >>>> already been poured into the business I would think that would be a drop > >>>> in the bucket. > >>>> > >>>> Rich _ wrote: > >>>> > Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA. > >>>> > > >>>> > But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm located. > >>>> > I'm interested in finding a location that best enables success for the > >>>> > business. > >>>> > > >>>> > Yes, I would be looked at as the business/funding person. A technical > >>>> > partner or technical contractor/employee would be needed. I hope > >>>> > available equipment is quite stable and reliable? > >>>> > > >>>> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net > >>>> > <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>> wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > Hi Rich, > >>>> > WISPA General List is actually a Global List. > >>>> > It would go a long ways for relevant folks to reply back to you if > >>>> > you at least share what part of the world ? / State or City if in > >>>> > the US. > >>>> > > >>>> > My personal reaction after reading the first two paragraphs was to > >>>> > suggest that you should consider some other business other than > >>>> > being a WISP. > >>>> > > >>>> > However after reading the last two paragraphs, it sounds like you > >>>> > may be the Business / Funding guy, looking for a Technical Partner > >>>> > to build a business together. > >>>> > > >>>> > The only reason I am saying this is because this is a tough > >>>> > business to be in if you are not going to roll up your sleeves and > >>>> > get your hands dirty. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Regards and Good Luck. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Faisal Imtiaz > >>>> > Snappy Internet & Telecom > >>>> > 7266 SW 48 Street > >>>> > Miami, Fl 33155 > >>>> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> > >>>> > Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 <tel:305%20663%205518> option 2 Email: > >>>> supp...@snappydsl.net <mailto:supp...@snappydsl.net> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > On 11/28/2011 6:33 PM, Rich _ wrote: > >>>> >> Hello, > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I operate in the custom software development industry and am > >>>> >> considering setting up a WISP as a new business investment. I > >>>> >> know very little about the industry and am hoping that some of > >>>> >> you will not mind giving me some feedback. In exchange, I'll be > >>>> >> glad to answer any software development questions you may have > >>>> >> that I can answer or that I can get an answer for. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I'm a business person. I'm not interested in learning the > >>>> >> low-level details about wireless hardware or protocals above and > >>>> >> beyond what I need to run the business. I have no desire to ever > >>>> >> install/troubleshoot/repair the equipment myself. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> What I want to do is own the service and run the business. My > >>>> >> first thoughts are I want a setup that makes it easiest for the > >>>> >> customer to start using the service. If there is a particular > >>>> >> hardware setup that lets me mail a dongle (small device that > >>>> >> would plug into a USB port) to the customer and viola they're up > >>>> >> and running, great! Also, I am wondering if operating in a > >>>> >> licensed spectrum will provide me with some protection from > >>>> >> frequency overload. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I am interested in finding people who may be able to help me > >>>> >> analyze a territory for potential profitability and engineer a > >>>> >> setup. So, if it doesn't violate mailing list rules, feel free to > >>>> >> respond with your contact information so that I can contact you > >>>> >> to find out what it would cost for your services. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I know I have a lot to learn and want to stick with high-level > >>>> >> information so that I can quickly determine if this is a good > >>>> >> opportunity for me. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Thanks, > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Rich > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> >> WISPA Wants You! 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