Those are both good examples of what I had in mind. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net> wrote:
> Do you have a particular company in mind? The only companies that I > know of that are using dongles (somewhat successfully) are cellular > companies. They are using licensed frequencies that cost in hundreds of > millions of dollars, assuming you can find any for sale. The last > public sale was parts of the 700MHz spectrum in 2009 which was purchased > primarily by cellular companies (AT&T and Verizon for instance spent > billions for their slices of 700MHz). The equipment cost is expensive > as well with base stations in the tens of thousands of dollars and I'm > sure the dongles are probably in the $100-200/unit range as well. > > > Rich _ wrote: > > How do the companies that have a dongle do it? Are they using > > something other than a WISP? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net > > <mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net>> wrote: > > > > Rich, > > Given current gear, FCC regulations and available spectrum, outside > of > > reselling cellular you are not going to going to find anything you > > will > > be able to reliable allow the customer to self-install. Trust me, > > there > > are smarter minds than mine that have been trying to figure that > > one out > > since this industry started. > > > > As Jay mentioned, Clearwire is probably the closest business model to > > what you are looking for, and even with their deep pockets and > > licensed > > spectrum they are having a tough time making it work. And I think > > it is > > precisely because they are choosing to go the route that you are > > looking > > for. > > > > If they took their spectrum and equipment and used it as traditional, > > professionally installed fixed wireless setup they would probably > > have a > > working business model. Sure their return on investment would be > > higher > > due to the installer cost, but if they took a dish-network model to > > getting installs done they would only be looking at 3-6 months break > > even on the install cost and considering the amount of money that has > > already been poured into the business I would think that would be > > a drop > > in the bucket. > > > > Rich _ wrote: > > > Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA. > > > > > > But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm > > located. > > > I'm interested in finding a location that best enables success > > for the > > > business. > > > > > > Yes, I would be looked at as the business/funding person. A > > technical > > > partner or technical contractor/employee would be needed. I hope > > > available equipment is quite stable and reliable? > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > > <fai...@snappydsl.net <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net> > > > <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>>> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rich, > > > WISPA General List is actually a Global List. > > > It would go a long ways for relevant folks to reply back to > > you if > > > you at least share what part of the world ? / State or City > > if in > > > the US. > > > > > > My personal reaction after reading the first two paragraphs > > was to > > > suggest that you should consider some other business other than > > > being a WISP. > > > > > > However after reading the last two paragraphs, it sounds > > like you > > > may be the Business / Funding guy, looking for a Technical > > Partner > > > to build a business together. > > > > > > The only reason I am saying this is because this is a tough > > > business to be in if you are not going to roll up your > > sleeves and > > > get your hands dirty. > > > > > > > > > Regards and Good Luck. > > > > > > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > > > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > > 7266 SW 48 Street > > > Miami, Fl 33155 > > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> > > <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> > > > Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 <tel:305%20663%205518> > > <tel:305%20663%205518> option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net > > <mailto:supp...@snappydsl.net <mailto:supp...@snappydsl.net>> > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2011 6:33 PM, Rich _ wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> I operate in the custom software development industry and am > > >> considering setting up a WISP as a new business investment. I > > >> know very little about the industry and am hoping that some of > > >> you will not mind giving me some feedback. In exchange, I'll > be > > >> glad to answer any software development questions you may have > > >> that I can answer or that I can get an answer for. > > >> > > >> I'm a business person. I'm not interested in learning the > > >> low-level details about wireless hardware or protocals > > above and > > >> beyond what I need to run the business. I have no desire to > > ever > > >> install/troubleshoot/repair the equipment myself. > > >> > > >> What I want to do is own the service and run the business. My > > >> first thoughts are I want a setup that makes it easiest for > the > > >> customer to start using the service. If there is a particular > > >> hardware setup that lets me mail a dongle (small device that > > >> would plug into a USB port) to the customer and viola > > they're up > > >> and running, great! 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