Unfortunately, no, you can’t assume that.  The existence of a business entity 
is only one of many factors.

As I said a little earlier, there’s no magic test.  “He has a business.  He 
sends me an invoice from that business.  He does other work, too.  He’s a 
contractor.” is probably the most common justification that employment lawyers 
see.  The existence or non-existence of a business entity or even the presence 
of other clients doesn’t automatically make someone a contractor or not a 
contractor.  It’s these black and white tests that get employers into trouble.

Doug

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
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I'm assuming that's all out the window if you're paying an LLC, Corp, etc. and 
not an individual?


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That’s a good way to look at it, Matt.  One additional refinement to what you 
say below, though--even if your guy does other outside work for other clients, 
that’s not going to be enough on its own to make him a contractor.  A person 
could be a contractor for some purposes and STILL be considered your employee.

Doug



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Only 2 options as I understand it:

If he is an employee you have to pay the taxes.
If he is a private contractor you cannot dictate how he manages his time and 
conducts “His” business.   You just pay him what he wants for his service to 
you.

(Even if he is a private contractor,  he must sufficient other customers 
besides you or he is still your employee)

Matt

From: heith petersen <wi...@mncomm.com<mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>>
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Date: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] remote employee

So, we finally got our former local tech set up at his office at his new home 3 
hours away. He has tunnel access into our net, access to billing and his VoIP 
phone tied to our switch to make and receive calls on our local lines, just 
like he did when he sat 10 feet from me. So next is to fine tune things.

We dumped him as a regular employee and moved to contract labor with no 
benefits, basically bumped him to a level where his pay per hour covered what 
he received via benefits, like insurance and vacation. Makes it easier for the 
accountant as she just cuts a check and doesn’t have to deduct taxes, however 
it now becomes his responsibility to claim wages and pay the taxes.

What we are working on now is management. My boss wants him to log everything 
he does and pay from there, but to me that seems to be a lot of work. We have a 
web based time clock, but I already have issues with techs forgetting to clock 
in or clock out, I cant imagine it would be better having a guy clock out after 
every single support call. Our phone system can log time on the phone and where 
the calls went to, but of course a guy can be busy updating firmware and 
re-configuring equipment without being on the phone.

The guy really only wants to clock 4 hours a day, but I need him available off 
an on during the day. He is unique and he could sit at home all day. I would 
almost just pay him 4 hours flat a day to sit and have him there and available, 
but the bosses want to pay him for only what he works, which I think puts more 
load on us deciphering logs to see what he actually worked.

Anyways kind of a first for us, and maybe a last. Just wondering what others, 
if any, have done. I don’t want to lose the guy because he takes care of a lot 
of stuff when I am gone and I don’t have to train him.

thanks
heith

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