Because there are foreclosure laws with homes, but have you ever tried
evicting someone? It can take months.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:01 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net
> wrote:

>
> Then why do people sell houses on owner financing ?
>
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> From: "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP
> Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:50 PM
>
>
> Having been a part of a deal gone bad I recommend cash up front.  Once you
> hand over the keys it's pretty hard to get it back.  If you have to go to
> Litigation you are going to be spending money out of pocket for attorneys.
>  I agree with Cameron.   Cash at closing. If you don't do 100% cash at
> closing you should be prepared to not see another dime if you do anything
> else.
>
> I know ISPs who sold, got some money at closing, and then ended up
> spending twice that money on attorney fees and still ended up with nothing.
>  Selling a business should be like selling a high dollar item.  If I was
> going to sell a car I sure wouldn't sell it on contract.   Too many things
> can go wrong.
>
> If I had 100% ownership in an ISP today and wanted to sell I would take a
> hit on the overall price.  If then user couldn't afford it and I really
> needed to sell for whatever reason I would simply take a lower price.  Less
> stress that way.
>
> Justin
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> From: "Hass, Douglas A." <d...@franczek.com>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 at 3:08 PM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP
>
> Cameron--
>
>
>
> There's lots of ways to structure the deal so that you're protected, even
> if the buyer is a complete imbecile and even if the buyer doesn't have cash
> up front.  If you want to sell or if you want to buy, don't let the
> all-cash restriction prevent you from making a deal.  If you end up in
> court chasing payments from the buyer, then you likely didn't draft your
> agreement carefully enough given your tolerance for risk (of course, your
> due diligence should be telling you whether the buyer is an imbecile, and
> that information should inform what kind of deal you're willing to accept).
>
>
>
> To categorically reject buyers who don't have 100% cash to hand you at
> closing might mean leaving money on the table or more flexible terms from
> someone who can put together a more attractive end package.  In that sense,
> it works like selling real estate.  The all-cash offer isn't always your
> best one.
>
>
>
> To Randy's point--Jab has undergone a major shakeup at the top.  Many of
> the senior executive staff have departed in the last few months.  That
> might account for some of the quietness.  I don't have any inside
> information, just what I learned trying to round up potential panelists and
> speakers for WISPAmerica.
>
>
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:45 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP
>
>
>
> The seller is not a bank. Why should they take on all the risk? What
> happens if the buyer is a complete imbecile and runs the network into the
> ground and defaults on payments? Now you are in court suing for money you
> will most likely never see, and even if you retake possession of the
> network, it may be in shambles or most of your customers have left. We
> walked away from a couple of buyers who would not pony up the cash. I'd say
> as one who sold a wisp, if the buyer can't afford it, or can't arrange
> their own financing, you don't want to sell.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> wrote:
>
> There's many more buyers out there.
>
>
>
>
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> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:00:34 AM
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> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP
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> Is anyone actually buying right now?  I haven't heard much about the big
> buyer (Jab) lately.
>
> On 3/19/2014 9:49 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
>
>
> The going rate, we've seen (and has been discussed here many times), is
> about 1.5x annual revenue
>
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> *From:*Eagle One Wireless <e...@e1w.com>
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> *To:*'WISPA General List' <wireless@wispa.org>
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:33 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP
>
>
>
> We priced ours at 2.5x gross revenue. We had about 10 companies contact us.
> I would say 5 were serious but they wanted us to finance it so we decided
> not to sell.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin Melson
> Eagle One Wireless
> 1505 Hwy 72 E
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> On
> Behalf Of Ryan Morgan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:30 AM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP
>
> What is the current rate for selling your ISP! I would like to sell, for
> health reasons.
> Thanks for your help!
> Jean
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