Maybe you have better customers than I do, but mine will pick the cheap
one and bitch like they paid for the expensive one every time something
goes wrong with it. Maybe I'm just not that good of a salesman, I find
it easier to just tell them this is what it costs, if that is too much I
fully understand and they can find another option.
When I started we did several motels and I took that approach and 3 of
them have since moved on because I let them take the cheap option with
the understanding that it will not have as good of coverage. All they
seem to remember is they paid me money for an option that I suggested to
them and it didn't work. Never mind the part about different options
and what the trade offs were. To each their own, that was just my
experience.
On 04/08/2014 01:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Old proven trick: Give the customer 2-3 options. I like 2, since I
find customers like simplicity. Cheap option, list the caveats and
problems. Expensive option, get the most solid over engineered fool
proof stuff out there.
Let the customer decide if they want to be cheap or have a solid
solution. If you have problems with the cheap one, they call and you
fix it and charge appropriately.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net
<mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net>> wrote:
And cost ;) There is some room in that you can always add
batteries or a panel (or swap out the panel). I guess my thought
on Josh's original post was over engineer it, if the customer
doesn't want to pay for the equipment you are out nothing (other
than a customer you couldn't reach anyway). And if they do pay
for it, you want something that is reliable since they are
outlaying a good chunk of cash in their mind whether that is $500
or $1000 dollars.
You don't want them saying I spent $500 for this setup and it dies
in the middle of a snow storm, and you don't want to be running
out to do maintenance on a site for a single customer in inclement
weather which is about the only time you have problems with a
solar setup.
On 04/08/2014 12:45 PM, Tom Fadgen wrote:
You have to remember, in the winter the sun is much less
available. There is no such thing as too much... only your
tolerance for downtime!
I have overshot the mark a few times.
120(min) watt Solar Panel
Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller
Solar Cable
Tycon *TP-DCDC-1224*
*Cabinet*
*Batteries, at least 180amp hours, gives 3 days of no sun*
*
*
*Tom Fadgen*
On Tuesday 08/04/2014 at 9:49 am, Josh Luthman wrote:
Robert's over here doing 1/3 of that, though. He's got a 15
watt load (two Ubnt, rb750p).
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mike Hammett
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
More panel is better than less panel. ;-)
Not sure I'd go less than half of that.
-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
*To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:41:52 AM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit
That looks like massive overkill, are you using a ~10 watt
load or are you doing much more? Quick math tells me the
batteries would do 12 days on a 10 watt load.
Do you find you need a 290 watt panel (though this also
leads back to the question)?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Sam Tetherow
<tethe...@shwisp.net <mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net>> wrote:
I have one up for 2 customers. They paid the cost on
the tower and solar setup, I put up the AP. Pretty low
maintenance, only issue I have on them is snow
accumulating on the panels.
Astronergy 290W 24V panel $280
Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller $63
MC4 cable $31
Shipping ?? $249
Two deep-cycle RV battteries from Sams Club (120ah) $250
Wire the load out of the charge controller to the DC in
on a Toughswitch put up a NanoBridge for the backhaul
and a NanoStation for the AP.
On 04/08/2014 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a
single customer? For example, their house is in the
middle of a forest but you can provide service at
the end of their lane.
This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put
together a kit of Nanos, solar panels, battery and
give the customer the price. I thought I would ask
here before reinventing the wheel.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
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