UDP, 1500bytes, no retransmits?

Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
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On 08/05/2014 02:33 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> If you use their cloud based link planner, it will tell you the answer 
> to your first question :P
> 2x80MHz - 975Mbps
> 2x40MHz - 487.5Mbps
> 2x20MHz - 243.75Mbps
>
> 1x80MHz - 487.5Mbps
> 1x40MHz - 243.75Mbps
> 1x20MHz - 121.875Mbps
>
> Josh Reynolds, CIO
> SPITwSPOTS
> www.spitwspots.com
>
> On 08/05/2014 01:25 PM, Elton Wilson wrote:
>> I see the advertised speeds of over 1gps, but I assume that is with 
>> 80mhz channels. What can we expect from a 20 or 40mhz channel size?
>>
>> Also, you mentioned that you can have up to 4 Colocated antennas 
>> using the same frequency. What if they are on different towers, but 
>> the towers can see each other? I assume you can still use GPS to sync 
>> them up ( I am ignorant as I have never used GPS sync before).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Constant spectral analysis was something I asked UBNT about
>>     awhile back for AirOS and UniFi... Cisco does something similar.
>>     I guess in the "easy method" it would doubles the chip cost in
>>     some cases, but it's very valuable to have this info for WISPs
>>     and people deploying high-density solutions. The ability to have
>>     the same data on the *remote* side of the connection is just as
>>     important as well, especially when it comes to helping identify
>>     customer issues (in the case of PtMP).
>>
>>     What kind of latency hit are we talking about in a 4 way 90deg
>>     PtP backhaul setup? Also, will you be developing your own
>>     shielded antennas for PtMP?
>>
>>
>>     Josh Reynolds, CIO
>>     SPITwSPOTS
>>     www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
>>
>>     On 08/05/2014 12:43 PM, Jaime Fink wrote:
>>>     +1. I swear it only took us a month to implement your great idea
>>>     ;)  Alas good ideas do take time.
>>>
>>>     The trick Josh that we found was that it’s incredibly difficult
>>>     to change channels fast enough and settle on the usual Wi-Fi
>>>     chips which have limited driver access, often taking over 10
>>>     milliseconds of time to make the change.
>>>
>>>     This problem also had to be solved to handle constant spectrum
>>>     analysis as well without service impact, down to 150
>>>     microseconds switching time to settle now.
>>>
>>>     Jaime
>>>
>>>     On Aug 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Funny thing is, Mimosa was already hard at work on an idea I
>>>>     brainstormed about in July :)
>>>>     
>>>> http://community.ubnt.com/t5/The-Lounge/Brainstorming-Maximizing-frequency-capacity-radio-system/m-p/899722#M32941
>>>>
>>>>     Josh Reynolds, CIO
>>>>     SPITwSPOTS
>>>>     www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com/>
>>>>
>>>>     On 08/05/2014 12:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>     For some reason they tried to keep this whole company and
>>>>>     product under wraps more than everything else.  Dunno why,
>>>>>     it's not like one couldn't figure it out or pick it up from
>>>>>     the intended secrecy.
>>>>>
>>>>>     At least it worked for one person =P
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Josh Luthman
>>>>>     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>>     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>>     1100 Wayne St
>>>>>     Suite 1337
>>>>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Josh Reynolds
>>>>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         You're... out of the loop.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Josh Reynolds, CIO
>>>>>         SPITwSPOTS
>>>>>         www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 08/05/2014 12:09 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>>         > The PtMP.
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > Matt Hoppes
>>>>>         > Director of Information Technology
>>>>>         > Indigo Wireless
>>>>>         > +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312>
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > On 8/5/14, 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>>         >> What are you "what"ing?
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >> -----
>>>>>         >> Mike Hammett
>>>>>         >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>         >> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         
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>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>         >> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>         >> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>         >> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:08:12 PM
>>>>>         >> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >> Wait... whut?
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >> Matt Hoppes
>>>>>         >> Director of Information Technology
>>>>>         >> Indigo Wireless
>>>>>         >> +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >> On 8/5/14, 3:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>>         >>> Jamie,
>>>>>         >>>
>>>>>         >>> We're incredibly excited by your announcement, and
>>>>>         eagerly await PtMP ;)
>>>>>         >>>
>>>>>         >>> Josh Reynolds, CIO
>>>>>         >>> SPITwSPOTS
>>>>>         >>> www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com/>
>>>>>         >>>
>>>>>         >>> On 08/05/2014 11:30 AM, Jaime Fink wrote:
>>>>>         >>>> 4 for the same channel is our general recommendation
>>>>>         for the
>>>>>         >>>> integrated antenna, angles will vary based on link
>>>>>         power/distances,
>>>>>         >>>> worst case is about 85 +/- 5 degrees, if we're going
>>>>>         for max
>>>>>         >> performance.
>>>>>         >>>> That doesn't limit colocation on the tower at 4, that
>>>>>         number can go up
>>>>>         >>>> of course in different channels, and channel widths.
>>>>>         >>>>
>>>>>         >>>> We're finishing off a "colocation planner" in our
>>>>>         cloud tools that
>>>>>         >>>> automates those answers for you based on your radio
>>>>>         location link
>>>>>         >>>> plans, coming soon!
>>>>>         >>>>
>>>>>         >>>> Cheers,
>>>>>         >>>>
>>>>>         >>>> Jaime
>>>>>         >>>>
>>>>>         >>>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, "Mike Hammett"
>>>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         >>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>         >>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> Thanks a bunch!
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> So then is there a hard limit of 4 radios per
>>>>>         location or is that
>>>>>         >>>>> just best you could do with the integrated antenna
>>>>>         model?
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> Must there be an even distribution (every 90*)? I
>>>>>         assume not, so
>>>>>         >>>>> what's the minimum isolation?
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> If I had 6' super high performance dishes, could I
>>>>>         put more than 4
>>>>>         >>>>> radios up? Not that I'm likely to use dishes that
>>>>>         big, but I do have
>>>>>         >>>>> towers with four backhauls already and I would like
>>>>>         some more in
>>>>>         >>>>> other directions.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> Just trying to figure out where the number four came
>>>>>         from and how
>>>>>         >>>>> hard is that number.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> -----
>>>>>         >>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>         >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>         >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         
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>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>         >>>>> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         >>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:38:12 PM
>>>>>         >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product
>>>>>         released
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> Mike,
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> Definitely wanted to clarify on your
>>>>>         question/comment on colocation
>>>>>         >>>>> capacities for the group.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in
>>>>>         separate
>>>>>         >>>>> directional paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated
>>>>>         sharing the same
>>>>>         >>>>> channels, but must be directionally coordinated,
>>>>>         this leverages
>>>>>         >>>>> integrated 1PPS GPS+GLONASS TDMA sync.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> As Fred pointed out nicely, the B5 has a fantastic
>>>>>         aperture
>>>>>         >>>>> efficiency integrated antenna that is about as clean
>>>>>         as there is out
>>>>>         >>>>> there, and the RF isolation techniques needed to get
>>>>>         us to that
>>>>>         >>>>> performance.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> No magic pixie dust, just great technology.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> Looking to the future, for sharing the same antenna
>>>>>         pattern/path, I
>>>>>         >>>>> absolutely see these capacities, but that will more
>>>>>         be leveraged for
>>>>>         >>>>> PTMP beamforming and MU-MIMO technology shared
>>>>>         across multiple
>>>>>         >>>>> clients. We’re on public record about the work that
>>>>>         we’re doing with
>>>>>         >>>>> our partner Quantenna on their next generation
>>>>>         technology they’ve
>>>>>         >>>>> announced for 2015 called 10G Wi-Fi. You can imagine
>>>>>         the amount of
>>>>>         >>>>> compute that takes, bordering more on magic pixie dust!
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>> *Jaime Fink* • *Mimosa* • *Chief Product Officer*
>>>>>         >>>>> 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 •
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>>>>>         >>>>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett
>>>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  >>From a TechCrunch article:
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  The B5 backhaul radio is a piece of hardware that uses
>>>>>         >>>>>  multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO)
>>>>>         technology to provide
>>>>>         >>>>>  up to 16 streams and 4 Gbps of output when multiple
>>>>>         radios are
>>>>>         >>>>>  using the same channel.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  Now I wonder if that is four radios on the same
>>>>>         path? If so,
>>>>>         >>>>>  that's pretty amazing.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  -----
>>>>>         >>>>>  Mike Hammett
>>>>>         >>>>>  Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>         >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>
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>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>         >>>>>  *From: *"Fred Goldstein" <[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         >>>>>  <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  *To: *[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:21:29 AM
>>>>>         >>>>>  *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product
>>>>>         released
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  On 8/5/2014 11:21 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>    I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning.
>>>>>         But that was
>>>>>         >>>>>    my thought also..
>>>>>         >>>>>    I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links
>>>>>         because I
>>>>>         >>>>>    can't hardly keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my
>>>>>         data center.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  The 5 GHz band is getting quite crowded, but at
>>>>>         least this new
>>>>>         >>>>>  radio seems to be efficient in how it uses the
>>>>>         spectrum.  Any of
>>>>>         >>>>>  these U-NII radios essentially transmits based on
>>>>>         demand.  If
>>>>>         >>>>>  traffic is 10 Mbps and the link is capable of 500
>>>>>         Mbps, it won't
>>>>>         >>>>>  be on the air very much of the time.  So it doesn't
>>>>>         need the
>>>>>         >>>>>  frequency all to itself.  We are doing a lot of
>>>>>         urban links and
>>>>>         >>>>>  share the frequencies with all sorts of stuff,
>>>>>         including "Cable
>>>>>         >>>>>  WiFi" (all over, even below 5250, ugh), but it
>>>>>         doesn't kill
>>>>>         >>>>>  performance, at least for the type of moderate load
>>>>>         applications
>>>>>         >>>>>  (mostly cameras) we're supporting on 5 GHz.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  We do most of the backhaul on higher frequencies
>>>>>         but 5 GHz is
>>>>>         >>>>>  sometimes used as a backup to take over during rain
>>>>>         fade.  During
>>>>>         >>>>>  the storm last week that brought a tornado just a
>>>>>         few subway
>>>>>         >>>>>  stops from downtown Boston, we even lost 11 GHz
>>>>>         links for time.
>>>>>         >>>>>  The rainfall was off the charts for the second time
>>>>>         in a month.
>>>>>         >>>>>  But 5 Ghz links hardly noticed it.
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>  Also to Mimosa's credit, it comes with a 44 cm 25
>>>>>         dB dish, whose
>>>>>         >>>>>  narrowness helps with frequency reuse.  It will
>>>>>         probably produce
>>>>>         >>>>>  a lot less clutter than outdoor access points, or
>>>>>         even some
>>>>>         >>>>>  indoor access points that use more power than
>>>>>         necessary.  (We put
>>>>>         >>>>>  a NanoBridge 5G25 on a hilltop and were able to
>>>>>         pick up WLANs
>>>>>         >>>>>  inside office towers four miles away.) And they are
>>>>>         petitioning
>>>>>         >>>>>  the FCC to open up 10 GHz under Part 90 (light
>>>>>         licensing, like
>>>>>         >> 3650).
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>    On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Hoppes
>>>>>         >>>>>    <[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         >>>>>    <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>        Oh dear.... so more backhauling noise on the
>>>>>         5GHz spectrum?
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>        AF5 + Mimosa....
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>
>>>>>         >>>>>        Matt Hoppes
>>>>>         >>>>>        Director of Information Technology
>>>>>         >>>>>        Indigo Wireless
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>>>>>         >>>>>        On 8/5/14, 9:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
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