That is of course assuming that you don't get it the day you need it. ;-) 



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----- Original Message -----

From: "Randy Cosby" <[email protected]> 
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:30:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 

Just open up all boxes and check all your parts before you go out. Nuts. 
Brackets. Cables. 

I've never had a problem with missing parts on UBNT sectors. 


On 8/28/2014 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: 




Not only should you have spares, you should also make sure you have the right 
parts before you go to the job... 

even if you do have the right parts, it's still a nuisance to deal with getting 
sent the wrong stuff... it can happen with anything though - for instance, I 
once got sent a 5ghz UBNT omni instead of 2.4ghz... I'm pretty sure I would've 
been better off with the wrong pigtails ;-) 




From: [email protected] [ [email protected] ] on behalf of 
Jim Patient [ [email protected] ] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:01 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 




If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because the vendor 
didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault. You should have several 
spares of every flavor in your truck. If not, it's a safe bet Murphy will show 
up throwing his laws around :-) 


Jim Patient 
Office: 314-735-0270 
linktechs.net 
towercoverage.com 
ispradio.com 




From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:30 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 


Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by mistake... =P 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle < 
[email protected] > wrote: 


KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers. KPP has N connectors on 
antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket. YMMV 
-Matt 

From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM 



To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 




Same radios but I had the opposite experience. I had one at -35, maybe the RF 
armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work. 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn < [email protected] > wrote: 
<blockquote>

UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp. UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT 
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP. On a grainleg 
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where UBNT 
see one another in the -50's. On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget 
it, you will have problems. 

2.4 in 10mhz cw. 


-----Original Message----- 
From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On 


Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by 
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the 
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over 
the ethernet port. 
________________________________________ 
From: [email protected] [ [email protected] ] on behalf of 
Sam [ [email protected] ] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets. 

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with a 
ton of interference... But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the shielding 
is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all about 
using stuff that's included at no additional charge :) 


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote: 
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of 
dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in 
performance between any of them. 
> 
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz? 
> 
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it 
seems somewhat pointless to me... 
> ________________________________________ 
> From: [email protected] [ [email protected] ] on 
> behalf of Sam [ [email protected] ] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM 
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 
> 
> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in 
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible? 
> 
> Thanks 
> Sam 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote: 
>> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover 
>> for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're 
>> using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas. 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] 
>> On Behalf Of Sam 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM 
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 
>> 
>> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance 
>> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their 
>> experiences of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically 
>> looking at 13 dBi omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector 
>> antennas compare as well. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Sam 
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