I thought Apple pretty well pissed on this concept of user tracking (at
least with iPhone users) by psuedo-randomizing the MAC when scanning for
WiFi networks?  I never paid enough attention to how well it worked, but
I saw it as a pretty big anti-tracking feature.
(Not sure about Android.  I never had an Android phone I liked.  They
exist, I'm sure, but I had bad luck.)
tim
 
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On Thu, May 11, 2017, at 17:19, Nick Bright wrote:
> It's a widely used strategy in hotspot markets and large retail
> chains to track movement within facilities. Since the data is all
> anonymized, there's not any serious privacy issues; but the potential
> for abuse is there.> 
>  We do utilize a similar system in one of our wifi projects, to
>  provide the city with analytic data on their down town area; it
>  provides them with information that helps with chamber of commerce
>  initiatives, public safety planning, and festival analytic data.
>  When used responsibly, this anonymized data does not pose any
>  privacy risk.> 
>  However, I do have say that the domain that original email was sent
>  from does seem dubious - it goes to a link farm landing page. It
>  makes me wonder "Who is really asking, and what is their real
>  motivation?"> 
>  On 5/11/2017 2:11 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> Jokes aside:


>> 
>>  


>>   That sounds too "gray area" for my liking personally. While it's
>>   all "technically" legal but still pushes some ethical issues with
>>   potential collection of MAC addresses from unwitting parties.>>  


>>  Not that Lowe's and Target have any trouble with similar techniques.>>  


>>
>>  -----Original Message----- From: "Jan-OOLLC"
>>  <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:48pm To:
>>  [email protected] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Query to the group>> Maybe he owns 
>> a donut store?


>> Jan V


>> On 05/11/2017 05:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> 
>>> "FBI Surveilance [sic] Van 7"?
>>> 
>>>  ;-)
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions[1]
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange[2]
>>>
>>> The Brothers WISP[3]>>> 
>>> *From: *"Chris Stradtman" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]> *Sent: *Thursday,
>>> May 11, 2017 1:04:41 AM *Subject: *[WISPA] Query to the group
>>>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>> I'm looking to this group to feel out the feasibility of an idea.
>>> I'm working with a project that is looking at doing a sort of
>>> "analytics".  One of the possible things this would involve would>>> be 
>>> paying WISPs to collect data on a particular SSID (this SSID
>>> would be controlled by the project I'm working with, so this isn't
>>> going into>>> any gray privacy grounds).  The group would want to get the 
>>> content
>>> of the beacons seen with this particular SSID(s).  It could either
>>> be done through>>> vendor equipment that would support it, or it could be 
>>> done via a
>>> passive probe colocated with the WISP's gear.>>> I thought I would float 
>>> this idea out to the group to see how it is
>>> received.>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Chris Stradtman
>>>
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