Josh. Stripe isn’t that much more than ippay

> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:18, Artie Darrell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Matt sorry trying to catch up on this (long) thread.. What's your 
> recommendation? 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2018 8:11 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Takes two minutes to setup. 
>> 
>>  Very easy to review info from their app. Web interface is very easy to use. 
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:04, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In what way would Stripe be better? I like at people that use Stripe like 
>>> the people that get their automotive parts from Walmart. Yeah, you could, 
>>> but...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:54:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>> Exactly. Stripe has very very nice records of every thing. Very user 
>>> friendly web and app. 
>>> 
>>> IPpay is like the Big Mac truck in Africa from 1985. Yeah. It does its job. 
>>> But it’s not pretty. 
>>> 
>>> Stripe is like the hot new Tesla pickup. Maybe it costs just a tad more. 
>>> But it’s way better, IMHO. 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:37, Jeff Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> CTI (IP Pay) is generally not flexible and not all that ISP friendly IMHO.  
>>> Although I do use IP PAY integrated with VISP and have no issues with it 
>>> other than what you describe in looking up transactions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> On 2/3/2018 11:46 AM, ralph wrote:
>>> I will tell you my issue with IP Pay.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most customers 
>>> pay monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing solution(WiFiRush)  uses 
>>> Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment receipt with transaction 
>>> number, etc. to the Email address the customer provides.  I also receive a 
>>> copy, which is automatically sent to a folder that is only used in case 
>>> there is a catastrophic failure of something and all billing records get 
>>> lost.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to send 
>>> the receipt to the customer, which it does not.  They also say that I must 
>>> manually look up records of any past transactions in their web site.  This 
>>> is cumbersome and (for me) it is much easier to search for the customer 
>>> name in my backup receipts that were Emailed. I seldom need them but it is 
>>> good to know they are there.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I once almost started using them but this issue stopped the show.  
>>> Unfortunately they started billing me a monthly fee even though I never 
>>> officially started using them and never processed any transactions at all.  
>>> It was a lot of difficulty to make them stop charging me.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> If they would simply send the receipts, like Authorize.net does, I would 
>>> probably switch to them since they are supposedly “ISP Friendly”. I can’t 
>>> believe this is not an option of theirs!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected]               
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:01 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I think you need to re-visit IP Pay, Propay, etc. for current quotes. 
>>> Stripe absolutely is more expensive.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Josh Richesin" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:25:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>> Agreed!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Richesin
>>> 
>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>> 
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> www.surelinebroadband.com
>>> 
>>> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>>> 
>>> Madras, OR 97741
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Brett A Mansfield 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier to 
>>> configure, manage, use, etc.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Only 50% higher, geez.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe includes 
>>> free ACH now.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike                                       
>>> Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Josh Richesin" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>> Lower cost on the CC processing,                                            
>>>    also, our current system is built on that with tokens, so it would avoid 
>>> us having to collect credit card information from all of the customers 
>>> again.  The first point being more important than the second.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Richesin
>>> 
>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>> 
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> www.surelinebroadband.com
>>> 
>>> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>>> 
>>> Madras, OR 97741
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hammett 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Why would you use Stripe?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Josh Richesin" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>> If only they had stripe integration.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Richesin
>>> 
>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>> 
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> www.surelinebroadband.com
>>> 
>>> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>>> 
>>> Madras, OR 97741
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hammett 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the 
>>> first place.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>> I imagine it's for new customers or                                         
>>>                 customers stuck in their ways.  Everyone else running 
>>> Powercode is already running the BMU and spending their time on other 
>>> things instead of replacing what's already working.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that 
>>> fashion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>> Mikrotik BMU is still in beta.  Pretty much everyone is currently           
>>>                                                 using the Powercode BMU.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I
>>> was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my
>>> powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and everytime I
>>> call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the
>>> support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I
>>> might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of Alan Luelf
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>> 
>>> We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > What do we got out there for billing solutions?  My current one is not
>>> > working out.  I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I
>>> > liked it but they don't have any                                          
>>> >                  support staff left and seem to be
>>> > falling apart.  I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45
>>> > days and they just can't get it done.  It's beyond frustrating, time
>>> > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why
>>> > my payment site is not secure.  I can't take it anymore.  I need some
>>> > recommendations on whats out there.  I want good support.  I need a
>>> > solution with support.  What's everybody using?  What do you like and
>>> > dislike about it?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Brian
>>> >
>>> >
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