I know at least for me, I don't mean that tronics is not a choice,
just the only one I know of. Even if a witango dev, feels perfectly
happy with the services you/tronics provide, the client the code is
written for must also be happy. And in my experience, few choices make
developers AND clients very uneasy.
I have never heard an ill word about Tronics, and I am sure you
provide a great service to witango developers.
--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
On Feb 11, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
I have been a Witango-centric hosting provider for a decade now. It
is not an ideal situation that there are so few hosting providers
out there, but I am surprised that you feel that you have no other
options available to you. I believe that the lower cost of the
server might bring more hosting providers to the language, and I
certainly feel that I can offer entry-level hosting packages at a
more attractive entry point. If and when you might want to upgrade
to Witango 5.5 or 6, I’ll gladly show you what I offer and give you
an estimate.
Robert
Tronics
From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:42 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
I agree with you Robert. The only places I can host Witango apps is
on my own servers. There really are no other alternatives except
maybe a few on this list. Funny, I host php, asp,and .net for other
developers on my servers, yet I could not, without a very difficult
search, host my apps somewhere else.
Another bone in the craw is the amount we spent on the original. My
problem is I have not updated. I am still running 2000 and it is so
stable and I have had no issues that it is very hard for me to move
on to something newer. I am currently getting around one million
visitors a month on 2 IIS servers (and one separate db server) and I
plan on adding another IIS server. SO this would mean I would need
at least two licenses, probably 3 if I cannot get an upgrade. I
bought professional 2000 back in the day. You remember how much that
one cost -- The reason I bought professional is because I could put
it on as many servers as I wanted. Of course you had to pay for that
privilage. Now I almost wish I would have purchased individual
licenses... it would have been a lot, LOT cheaper in the end.
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:19 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
The thing is, even if the dev studio is great, and cheap, you have
to have places to host your stuff, and there are very few choices,
so devs will have to host themselves more than any other platform.
With .net and php, you can host all over the place, coldfusion, more
choices, but not as much as php and .net. The .net server, is really
just windows web edition, or $300. IMHO, the witango server, being
by far the underdog, needs to be at the highest point, $699.
I think these new prices are great, and I think they will definitely
help stop the bleeding of devs to other places who already have a
witango investment. But I don't see them bring in new developers,
again, just my opinion.
--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
On Feb 11, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Rick Sanders wrote:
I agree too, cost is high.
CF8 Server is $1299.00 full, and upgrade is $649.00
Visual Studio Pro 2008 $799.00 - Upgrade: $499.00
So, are we looking at Q3 for the full release?
I’ll be interested to see what the new features are, and test the
beta. Good work Phil!
Rick
From: GK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-11-08 3:46 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
I agree with Robert. The server cost is still a bit high. The
strength of WiTango is the studio. It would be great if it could
export php code. Nonetheless, this is a good breakthrough and hope
to see the community grow.
George Kassyousef
Phenomena Technologies Inc
www.phenomenatech.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Robert Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:24:01 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
These are great changes, too late for BigHead, but maybe not for
others. I think the studio price is spot on. I still think the server
should be sub 1000, but just my opinion. Good to see the change to one
machine license.
What does "open sourced under its own license" mean?
--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
On Feb 11, 2008, at 4:59 AM, Phil Wade wrote:
> WITANGO COMMUNITY UPDATE
> ------------------------
>
> Th Witango 6 development project is now drawing to a close and in
> the coming weeks a full public beta of both studio and server will
> be released. The full release of Witango 6 will be accompanied by
> significant changes to both pricing and licensing, we therefore
> take this opportunity to update the community as we move forward.
>
>
> New Licensing
> -------------
> Once the beta testing has been completed and version 6 goes into
> release, the source code for both the server and studio will be open
> sourced under its own license. Witango will continue to be a
> commercial product and a license will need to be purchased. There
> will be 3 editions of the Server:
>
> The Lite edition - no change to current license conditions
> The Developer edition - no change to current license conditions.
> The Professional edition - single machine license, with no
> limitation on number of processes or CPUs.
>
>
> New Pricing
> -----------
> Witango Studio v6 US$199
>
> Witango Studio upgrade - US$99
>
> Witango Server Lite - Free
> Witango Server Developer Edition - Free with studio
> Witango Server Professional - US$1499
>
> Witango Server Upgrade from v5.5 - US$999
> Witango Server Upgrade from pre v5.5 - US$1299
>
> Those customers who own Witango 5.5 professional edition servers
> will have the option at the time of upgrade to upgrade their server
> to two (2) Witango 6 Professional edition licenses for US$1499.
>
> Witango licenses will only be available direct from Witango
> Technologies and no further discount will apply.
>
>
> Your Enquiries
> -----------
> A comprehensive outline of new features will be available on release
> of the beta. We understand many of you will have questions, please
> direct them off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We will compile a FAQ and
> post back to the list.
>
> It has been a long term goal for Witango Technologies to move
> Witango to an Open Source product, with simplified and affordable
> licensing. Witango v6 therefore represents a major milestone for
> us. We would also take his opportunity to thank our development
> team who have worked with consistent enthusiasm and considerable
> effort in preparing the code for open source.
>
>
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