Sorry, I forgot to add: apologies to Rick.
Thank you.
Scott,
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On 2009-09-22, at 5:32 PM, Scott Cadillac <sc...@xmlx.net> wrote:
You could be right Stefan, I could have the circumstances backwards
with regards to how the bitch-fest started.
I defer to your better memory, thank you.
Scott,
On Sep-22-2009, at 5:09 PM, Stefan Gonick wrote:
Hi Scott,
I have been agreeing with everything that you written up until now.
I take
issue with the final part of your sentence. I do not believe that
it was the
"bitch-fest" that led Phil to stop answering posts in the first
place. I think
that it was Phil's lack of communication that started the bitch-
fest. I
think that you have the order backwards.
Also, the bitch-fest has been quite legitimate and deserving of a
response.
Owners of a product that cared about the product would have responded
long ago.
I still believe, as I have stated for a long time now, that Phil's
poor
communication tendencies started the final downfall of this
product. It was
his poor handling of Robert's announcement of leaving Witango due
to lack of
documentation that caused the beginning of a mass exodus of the
product.
This led to a rapid downward spiral... *sigh* It's a real shame.
Phil has probably moved on to bigger and better things at this
point. It would
be responsible (and communicative) of Phil to let us know what's
going on.
That has not been Phil's forte, however. Hence, the bitch-fest.
Stefan
At 04:00 PM 9/22/2009, you wrote:
Some good points Rick,
But I think the number of years Tango has been struggling as a
product
is just as wide open to personal interpretation as who started the
bitch-fest that led Phil to stop answering Posts in the first place.
Scott,
On Sep-22-2009, at 4:37 PM, Rick Sanders wrote:
I disagree with the first and second paragraphs. When With took
over
WiTango
they made many promises. They promised continued support, new
versions, a
better distribution infrastructure, more market awareness.....
As developers this was good news. As business people we go by what
other
people say and take their word. So, the writing has not been on the
wall for
9 years, but definitely in the last 2.
If the product is in fact dead or dropped, then they should come
out
and say
so instead of not saying anything at all leaving false hope. At
least tell
people to move on. Although many people were upset when Visual
studio was
first released and VB developers would have to learn new ways of
developing
applications and re-writing applications, at least Microsoft came
out and
told people VB is no longer supported and you have to learn .net.
WiTango
should do the same in my opinion.
No, Phil and Sophie don't need to respond to threats or insults. I
totally
agree. But, maybe they should recognize why they are getting
threats
and
insults and address the issue of WiTango.
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The writing has been on the wall for 9 years - 9 YEARS [one more
and
it'll
be 10!], so if people feel they have been burned by Phil...
well, that's what happens when you can't stop yourself from
gambling.
Eventually you lose.
As for who started the unprofessional death-spiral, I think fingers
can be
pointed in a lot of directions that don't necessarily take you
down- under.
I haven't had personal correspondence with Phil or Sophie in over
3 or
4 years I think, so I have no idea what they're up to, but I don't
blame
them one bit for not answering the threats or insults that come
from
some
people on this List.
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