I don't have access to the logs right now but Rob I think you are right. I remember when I provided an uninstall button inside of the upgraded bundle it usually failed because of some dependency issue of the package (from the logs), which I don't quite understand since there is only one package in the bundle. I will look more into that. Thanks for the guidance and the info on overriding the behavior.
Greg Beaty greg.bea...@gmail.com On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com> wrote: > If your UpgradeCodes are correct then I would guess the Bundle upgrade is > failing. You should see the new Bundle kick off an uninstall of the old > Bundle at the end of the new Bundle's install. > > If you take a walk through the log files you should be able to see all the > calls. > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Gregory Beaty <greg.bea...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Sorry for all the posts but I will explain my problem in more detail. I > am > > not using the wixstdba, I have created my very own managed Bootstrapper > > Application based loosely on the Wix 3.6 Installer. Everytime I build my > > solution I increment the version, it is never the same (just for testing > > purposes). Originally this was not the case and I was essentially doing > > same version upgrades which resulted in multiple ARP entries. Now, when I > > install a version, then I try to upgrade to a new version I still always > > get multiple entries in ARP even though the versions are clearly > different > > (from looking at the version number referenced in ARP). Is there > something > > I am missing? > > > > Greg Beaty > > greg.bea...@gmail.com > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com > > >wrote: > > > > > The default upgrade logic in the Burn engine does not block and does > not > > > upgrade bundles with the same version. That is pretty arguably wrong > (and > > > is the bug Neil is referring to). <smile/> > > > > > > The BootstrapperApplication can override the default logic to do > > whichever > > > you want. However, the wixstdba does not, so you get the default > behavior > > > of the engine. > > > Most likely, if you continue to rebuild the Bundle but keep the version > > the > > > same, you have multiple bundles registered on your machine. Go to > > > Programs&Features (aka: ARP) and remove them all. Package reference > > > counting with all those Bundles still installed will likely be very > > > confusing. <smile/> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Gregory Beaty <greg.bea...@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure its the package but I could be wrong. > > > > On Sep 17, 2012 4:33 AM, "Neil Sleightholm" <n...@x2systems.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Do you mean multiple entries from your burn package or the msi? > > > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Does this mean I should remove the AllowSameVersions from the > > > > MajorUpgrade > > > > > >tag also? Right now I still get multiple entries with different > > > versions > > > > > >but I still have the flag there. > > > > > > > > > > > >Greg Beaty > > > > > >greg.bea...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Neil Sleightholm > > > > > ><n...@x2systems.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I had this issue when I had done some same version installs and > > then > > > > > >> started changing the version; the cause was multiple entries in > > ARP. > > > > It > > > > > >> might we worth checking this, I found if I removed all the > > versions > > > > then > > > > > >> the upgrades started working. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Neil > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >> From: Gregory Beaty [mailto:greg.bea...@gmail.com] > > > > > >> Sent: 16 September 2012 17:36 > > > > > >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper Upgrade Detection > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Even my different version upgrades don't remove the previous > > > installed > > > > > >> version. I seem to have problems uninstalling a previous bundle > > from > > > > an > > > > > >> upgraded bundle. I believe the logs always indicate there is a > > > > > >>dependency > > > > > >> which can't be possible since I only have one MSI package in the > > > > chain. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> This kind of leads me to believe that Burn handles repairs > > > differently > > > > > >>as > > > > > >> well. In my old bootstrapper repairs worked fine, but when using > > > Burn > > > > it > > > > > >> seems that the "StopServices" action is never called and instead > > > > > >> WixRemoveFoldersEx is called which introduces issues with my > > > > application > > > > > >> because my service has exclusive locks on some files. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Greg Beaty > > > > > >> greg.bea...@gmail.com > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Neil Sleightholm < > > > > n...@x2systems.com > > > > > >> >wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Burn doesn't support same version upgrades, I have questioned > > this > > > > > >> > before as I think it should. I thought I had raised this as a > > > > > >> > bug/feature request but can't find it now. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Neil > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > > > >> > From: Gregory Beaty [mailto:greg.bea...@gmail.com] > > > > > >> > Sent: 16 September 2012 15:27 > > > > > >> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper Upgrade Detection > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > 1. Wix supports same version major upgrades that are the same > > > > version > > > > > >> > using the SameVersion flag. Why isn't Burn using this as well, > > or > > > is > > > > > >> > there a way to turn it on? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Greg Beaty > > > > > >> > greg.bea...@gmail.com > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Rob Mensching < > > > > r...@robmensching.com> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > 1. Bundles with the same UpgradeCode have an upgrade > > > > > >> > > relationship.The higher version removes the lower version. > > Same > > > > > >> > > versions but built at different times can end up in the > > > situation > > > > > >>you > > > > > >> describe. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > 2. There should be very few differences between gettinga BA > > > > written > > > > > >> > > for NETFX 3.5 vs. 4.0. Actually installing the NETFX 3.5 may > > be > > > > > >> > > trickier but creating an ExePackage and referencing that via > > the > > > > > >> > > WixMbaPrereqPackageId is all the same. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Gregory Beaty < > > gbe...@spsu.edu > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks Rob. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > I do have another issue. How do I disable the ability for > > the > > > BA > > > > > >> > > > to > > > > > >> > > install > > > > > >> > > > multiple versions of my application? It seems that during > an > > > > > >> > > > upgrade it installs an entirely new app and there ends up > > > being > > > > > >> > > > multiple entries in Add/Remove programs. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Are there any examples of a managed BA for .Net 3.5? It > > seems > > > > like > > > > > >> > > > no matter how I bundle the .Net package, author the > bundle, > > > and > > > > > >> > > > configure > > > > > >> > > the > > > > > >> > > > app.config file I can not get the BA to effectively > install > > > the > > > > > >> > > > framework then my application. It installs the framework > > then > > > it > > > > > >> > > > opens the the UI shell used for the framework install > again > > > and > > > > > >> > > > never > > > > > >> > installs my program. > > > > > >> > > > My application is instead replaced by UI shell that the > > > > framework > > > > > >> > > installer > > > > > >> > > > uses. Does that make sense, and if so is that a bug? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > *Thanks, > > > > > >> > > > Greg Beaty > > > > > >> > > > * > > > > > >> > > > *LinkedIn > > > > > >> > > > <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gregory-beaty-jr/42/b6a/a96> > > > > > >> > > > | Personal <http://goog_419374978>**Website > > > > > >> > > > <http://www.gregbeaty.net/> | > > > > > >> > > > ** > > > > > >> > > > gbe...@spsu.edu* > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Rob Mensching > > > > > >> > > > <r...@robmensching.com > > > > > >> > > > >wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > The RelatedOption.None is how you know. In WiX v3.7 you > > also > > > > get > > > > > >> > > > > the relation type which will further inform you that you > > > have > > > > a > > > > > >> > > > > related > > > > > >> > > > Bundle > > > > > >> > > > > that is an upgrade but it's operation is None (i.e not > > > upgrade > > > > > >> > > > > and not downgrade). > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Gregory Beaty > > > > > >> > > > > <greg.bea...@gmail.com > > > > > >> > > > > >wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hello, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > My WiX MSI package allows same version upgrades with: > > > > > >> > > > > > <MajorUpgrade Schedule="afterInstallInitialize" > > > > > >> > AllowSameVersionUpgrades="yes" > > > > > >> > > > > > DowngradeErrorMessage="A newer version of > [ProductName] > > > is > > > > > >> > > > > > already installed." />. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > However when using this with my Manager Bootstrapper > > > > > >> > > > > > Application I > > > > > >> > > > never > > > > > >> > > > > > get the RelatedOperation of a MinorUpgrade or > > MajorUpgrade > > > > in > > > > > >> > > > > > the DetectRelatedBundle event. I only get > > > > RelatedOption.None. > > > > > >> > > > > > The process indeed upgrades the previous installation > > but > > > > this > > > > > >> > > > > > hinders my ability > > > > > >> > > > to > > > > > >> > > > > > inform the user inside of the Bootstrapper Application > > > that > > > > > >> > > > > > the > > > > > >> > > install > > > > > >> > > > > is > > > > > >> > > > > > an upgrade. Is this a bug or is there something I am > > doing > > > > > >> > > > > > wrong? Is > > > > > >> > > > the > > > > > >> > > > > > problem that the package actions aren't scheduled > until > > it > > > > is > > > > > >> > > actually > > > > > >> > > > > > executing? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Greg Beaty > > > > > >> > > > > > g <gbe...@spsu.edu>reg.bea...@gmail.com > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > > >> > > -------- > > > > > >> > > > > > Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event > > will > > > > > >> > > > > > cover all the ways today's security and threat > landscape > > > has > > > > > >> > > > > > changed and how IT managers can respond. > > > > > >> > > > Discussions > > > > > >> > > > > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and > the > > > > latest > > > > > >> > > > > > in > > > > > >> > > > malware > > > > > >> > > > > > threats. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > > > > > WiX-users mailing list > > > > > >> > > > > > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > >> > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > -- > > > > > >> > > > > virtually, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Rob Mensching > > > > > >> > > > > http://RobMensching.com LLC > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > > >> > > -------- > > > > > >> > > > > Got visibility? > > > > > >> > > > > Most devs has no idea what their production app looks > > like. > > > > > >> > > > > Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. > > > > > >> > > > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > > > > WiX-users mailing list > > > > > >> > > > > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > >> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > > >> > > -------- > > > > > >> > > > Got visibility? > > > > > >> > > > Most devs has no idea what their production app looks > like. > > > > > >> > > > Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. > > > > > >> > > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? > > > > > >> > > > > > http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html > > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > > > WiX-users mailing list > > > > > >> > > > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > >> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > > >> > > virtually, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Rob Mensching > > > > > >> > > http://RobMensching.com LLC > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > > >> > > -------- > > > > > >> > > Got visibility? > > > > > >> > > Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. > > > > > >> > > Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. > > > > > >> > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? > > > > > >> > > > http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > > WiX-users mailing list > > > > > >> > > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> > -------- Everyone hates slow websites. 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