Rob, I'm not trying to be hurtful. I'm saying that there is a **** load of WiX work to be done and it seems odd to bite off a custom issue tracking system at the same time. There's nothing hurtful intended by that, I'm just saying you got a pretty full vision of future work to get done on WiX both v3.8 and v4.0. I only brought it up again because someone else wandered off to the bugs list and found the most obvious feature ( search ) to be missing and came here asking about it.
I've executed the assignment agreement and want to help but I've found several obstacles related to the development environment that have slowed me down from getting involved. I did a Habitat for Humanity build the other day ( a lot of painful heavy lifting, cutting and hammering doing framing which I know nothing about ) so I had an interesting experience thinking about organization skills as it relates to leveraging unskilled talent. I think some of that applies here. ( Unskilled as in I'm not the best .NET developer in the world...) I'd love to quickly pull source, get a good developer build and start chewing on some easy work. Dog fooding in house tools isn't what I personally had in mind. Anyways I'm upgrading to the final VS2013 right now and just saw Bob's announcement about 2013 support. Job well done. Chris ---------------------------------------- From: "Rob Mensching" <r...@robmensching.com> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:57 AM To: "General discussion about the WiX toolset." <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Where are my migrated issues? Since this is the second time you've brought it up, I'll take some time to address the comments so everyone knows why we use the new issue tracker. First, I rolled our own issue tracker after Bob and I were unhappy with the other available options. We had a vision of a bug workflow that would aid our efforts to triage while making it clear how the WiX toolset is progressing. Thus far, it's helping out a lot in triage and we're adding features requests that will help us on the progress reporting front. It's also *very* nice to know that we can add features and fix things to make life more enjoyable for those that spend many hours per week managing the WiX toolset (triage is vital but can be pretty life sucking). Second, I took on the issue tracker in my free time to gain a better understanding of web technologies. For example, I now know that adding a search box isn't actually three lines of jQuery (although I've learned you can do some pretty amazing stuff in just three lines of jQuery) but it's not a whole lot of work either. I haven't added the search box yet because I've grouped it in with a few other small features that just haven't bubbled to the top of my priority list yet. Third, the issue tracker's issue tracker is on GitHub because they had the issue tracker that had some of the more interesting features. That issue tracker (like all the others) is missing some key features (such as the "Untriaged" status) but since it did quite a few things right I wanted to user their system extensively to get a good feel for it. It does look a little funny that the issue tracker doesn't dogfood itself but there is a method behind the madness. <smile/> So, anyway, the tinyBugs issue tracker is working out well for us right now in triage. There are certainly things that need to be improved. The issue tracker on GitHub should be tracking them and if not, we should add it. PS: "As if there's isn't enough WiX work to get done. :)" maybe you're only joking but this is the second time you left that comment it is actually pretty hurtful. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Christopher Painter <chr...@iswix.com>wrote: > > > Yes, for some reason Rob has decided to roll his own issue tracking > system and it currently doesn't have a search feature. As if there's isn't > enough WiX work to get done. :) > > The "feature request" for that is on yet another bug tracking system: > > https://github.com/robmen/tinybugs/issues/33 > > A coworker who is a web developer tells me that he could write a textbox > search feature in about 3 lines of jquery. I don't know as that's not my > thing. > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Pallier, Manuel / BEKO Graz" <manuel.pall...@beko.at> > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:21 AM > To: "General discussion about the WiX toolset." < > wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Where are my migrated issues? > > Thanks. > Now I also found out how to find them. "a little harder to search for" is > a nice description for the fact that you have to explicitly add a > "status:Untriaged" filter. Would be great if that was documented somewhere, > usually a search without additional filters searches through all items ;-) > > Is there a way to get notified of changes in issues in the new issue > tracker? I registered a new account there but even then I can't find > anything to add notifications. > > About triage, it would be great if you could have a quick look at those > issues, but it's not too important. > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Blair Murri [mailto:os...@live.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2013 13:38 > An: General discussion about the WiX toolset. > Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Where are my migrated issues? > > Both happen to still be untriaged (there are still over 600 of those, so > no surprise there, but there were well over 700 at the time of the > migration IIRC) and untriaged bugs are currently a little harder to search > for in that new interface. > > http://wixtoolset.org/issues/3511/ <-- old feature request: 679 > http://wixtoolset.org/issues/3165/ <-- old bug: 2532 > > We have a triage meeting today (actually once or twice a week), you can > ask for these to be addressed there you wish. You can even attend (even > better) to defend/describe your bugs/features (it is held online and > recorded). > > > From: chr...@iswix.com > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 03:49:51 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Where are my migrated issues? > > > > Try: > > > > http://wixtoolset.org/issues/ > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: "Pallier, Manuel / BEKO Graz" <manuel.pall...@beko.at> > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 2:43 AM > > To: "wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net" > > <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Subject: [WiX-users] Where are my migrated issues? > > > > Hi, > > > > I've created a feature request in the Sourceforge ticket tracker a > > long time ago and I've also followed a bug entered by a different > > user. Both tickets were closed on 2013-08-21 with the status > > "migrated" but I can't find them on the new issue tracker. Where did > they go? > > > > These are the original tickets: > > http://sourceforge.net/p/wix/feature-requests/679/ > > http://sourceforge.net/p/wix/bugs/2532/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > -- > > October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help > > you accelerate application performance. > > Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the > > most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. 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