Do I have to have created a proper ServiceControl *before* I do the upgrade, or can my new package do everything? In any case, I do have ServiceControl Stop="both" and Wait="yes" in the *existing* packages (including the one which was causing some people trouble), so something is funny. Is there a problem with the name: some services use an 8 character name, but I've never had any other trouble with "EscalationService" as a name, so ...
As for the restart, there's a situation's explanation missing: how do the command line arguments to msiexec work? (/quiet and /norestart.) Does that work to simply *stop* the restart you mentioned? Or does it fail the install because it can't tell you it is about to do so because of /quiet? Or does it just do it? Do those interact with RestartManager in any way? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada -----Original Message----- From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com] Sent: April-25-14 1:05 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended installs You haven't said (or I missed it) if you're using ServiceControl - you can use that to shut down the service and restart it after the upgrade. In most cases that will mitigate any files-in-use situations because Windows looks at the ServiceControl table to see if the service will be shut down. That may make a difference in your case. If it's a completely silent install, it'll stay silent. There'll be no dialogs, and if a reboot is needed it will just do it - it can't prompt in a silent install, and a reboot is needed to complete the install so it does it. --------------- Phil Wilson On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Marc Beaudry <mbeau...@matrox.com> wrote: > Hi Keith, > > Not sure that the Util:RestartResource does but have you tried > something simple like: > > <Property Id="REBOOT" Value="ReallySuppress"></Property> > > I am using this: > <Property Id="MSIRESTARTMANAGERCONTROL" Value="Disable"/> > <Property Id="REBOOT" Value="ReallySuppress"></Property> > > And all my reboots seem suppressed. > > Hope this helps, > Marc > > -----Original Message----- > From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca] > Sent: April-25-2014 9:50 AM > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended > installs > > Hi Marc, I think I'm finally piecing this together: the only very > missing part is the interaction with /quiet - if I am not mistaken. > But I have one question for everyone: > > Util:RestartResource - does one use that to register that one wants to > restart an *existing* application / service, or does it flag part of > one's installation as sensitive for the changes to *it*? If it is the > latter, I will be no further ahead until I install an update which > includes that, presumably. (Once I also set MSIRMSHUTDOWN=2 and > MSIDISABLERMRESTART=0) > > My question is the dual to the one on stackoverflow: 8354767. The > person there wants to prevent auto-kill; I want to do the opposite (to > ensure that the installation succeeds). > > > Keith Douglas > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 > Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | > Gouvernement du Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Beaudry [mailto:mbeau...@matrox.com] > Sent: April-24-14 5:31 PM > To: 'General discussion about the WiX toolset.' > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended > installs > > Hi Keith, > > I am not running silently and the Property and the removal of the > dialogs worked for my Windows 7 installation, on Windows 8 I am still > getting the Restart at the very end, when the MSI terminates (The last dialog > closes). > It seems to be popping the reboot dialog from Windows Installer and not WIX. > > Sorry I couldn't be of more help, > Marc > > > -----Original Message----- > From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca] > Sent: April-24-2014 4:37 PM > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended > installs > > Hi Marc, thanks for answering. > > I am not sure the property you mentioned is the right one: the > documentation says that with it set the way you recommend the > FilesInUse dialog will be used. But since I do unattended/installs > from a service, that doesn't sound useful - since it seems that would > freeze the installation waiting for the input which can never come. > Unless of course some other option (on the command line? a property?) > works to automatically answer the dialog with a "shut down the > process" type answer. But that's precisely what I don't see explained > - least of all on that page. Is it buried somewhere else? In fact I already > use the property in question, so maybe this is exactly opposite? > Hm, for some reason I have MSIRMSHUTDOWN = 2 set as well. Maybe that's > wrong. > > > As for the Restart Manager APIs, I found on my own aa373682, which > explains how to register applications to automatically be shutdown and > restarted. > That sounds promising, but how do I do that from WiX? Util:RestartResource ? > I seem to have tried that in the past unsuccessfully. > > > Keith Douglas > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 > Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | > Gouvernement du Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Beaudry [mailto:mbeau...@matrox.com] > Sent: April-24-14 4:04 PM > To: 'General discussion about the WiX toolset.' > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended > installs > > Hi Keith, > > Far from being an expert, but I am currently dealing with similar issues: > > Here is an Idea: > <Property Id="MSIRESTARTMANAGERCONTROL" Value="Disable"/> > > Also you can remove the FileInUse dialogs from within the WIX sources > > And lastly take a look at this: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa373649(v=vs.85).aspx > > Hope this helps, > Marc > > -----Original Message----- > From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca] > Sent: April-24-2014 3:07 PM > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended installs > > We have a in house windows service installed by a WiX installer. Since > our users on these remote systems are not administrators, this install > is actually "brokered" by the same service. That is, msiexec is called > by the service itself, and the installation is called with /quiet > /norestart as we do not want the user to see anything nor to have the > OS reboot immediately, as the user will be confused/lose work, etc. by > this. Unfortunately under some circumstances the installation fails > because the files from the service (e.g. its EXE and its remoting > proxy library) are in use. I don't care if it takes a reboot to finish > the installation; but I do want to ensure the files are eventually > updated and the service continues working. What is the most reliable > way to do this? I take it that if the installation were to be manual > the FilesInUse dialog would do the trick, but with the unattended, SYSTEM > brokered install this won't of course work. So what will "click OK" > there and do the shutdown and restart of the service? Is it passable > as a property in the installer itself? > > Thanks, > > > Keith Douglas > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 > Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | > Gouvernement du Canada > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > -- > Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your > Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source > Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn > Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > -- > Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your > Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source > Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn > Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > -- > Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your > Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source > Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn > Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > -- > Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your > Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source > Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn > Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > -- > Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your > Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source > Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn > Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build > your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open > Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And > Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
