Right, fresh install works fine for me, it's only the upgrade case that is
borked.

// Sascha


On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:07 PM, John Cooper <jocoo...@jackhenry.com> wrote:

> It doesn't replicate for me in the NOT installed case for the 1709 version
> of the product.  I'll get the earlier product tonight and test the upgrade
> case tomorrow.
>
> --
> John Merryweather Cooper
> Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications | Continuing
> Development
> Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® | Lenexa, KS  66214 | Ext:  431050 |
> jocoo...@jackhenry.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Cooper
> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 2:54 PM
> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create
> the default key container
>
> If a file is unversioned, the normal file versioning rules and process
> don’t apply to it.
>
> In the case of these three assemblies,  they end up being entries in the
> MsiFileHash table.  However, file timestamps control whether the
> MsiFileHash table is even entered.
>
> Repairs are also going to be strange.  Likewise patching.
>
> That being said, it is a concern, but unlikely to be the source of your
> problem.
> --
> John Merryweather Cooper
> Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications | Continuing
> Development Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® | Lenexa, KS  66214 | Ext:
> 431050 |jocoo...@jackhenry.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca]
> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 2:28 PM
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create
> the default key container
>
> For what it is worth, I tried one of my investigation packages with a
> "fake exe" (for the sake of ease of recognizing as a fake) which, needless
> to say, has no version at all. It seems to upgrade fine with no trouble.
>
>
> Keith Douglas
> Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 Facsimile
> | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com]
> Sent: September-08-14 3:18 PM
> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create
> the default key container
>
> I notice that Agent.Interop.dll, CefSharp.dll, and CefSharpt.Wpf.dll all
> are completely unversioned (no version numbers at all).  When an upgrade
> works, what to does the log look like for these three files?
>
> --
> John Merryweather Cooper
> Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications | Continuing
> Development Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® | Lenexa, KS  66214 | Ext:
> 431050 |jocoo...@jackhenry.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sascha Sertel [mailto:sascha.ser...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 2:02 PM
> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create
> the default key container
>
> Yes, my installer uses a bundle because I have .NET Framework 4.5.1 and
> Visual C++ 12 runtime components as a prerequisite before running my actual
> product MSI.
>
> I haven't actually tried if the upgrade failure also repros using the
> product MSI only instead of the bundle, I'll try that out today. Maybe it's
> actually something about upgrading a bundle that causes the failure to
> happen.
>
> In terms of what do we know, I don't think we know anything, we have yet
> to find anything common between the failing installers. It seems to fail
> for both per-user and per-machine installs, domain as well as workgroup
> user accounts, elevated and non-elevated privileges, none of that seems to
> matter.
>
> // Sascha
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM, <keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca> wrote:
>
> > Let me echo John here, I am trying to help us and also help the
> community.
> > We are worse off, too, than some, because the machines I deal with are
> > mostly-disconnected remotes which receive the vast majority of their
> > tech support via RDP if at all. It seems that most of the hypotheses
> > around are wrong, unless we're just unlucky.
> >
> > Sascha: I have yet to try your stuff out. I know already now that you
> > are dealing with MSIs in a bundle (correct?), which we don't do - we
> > use bundles to use Windows Update files (MSUs) only, at present. All
> > the rest of our stuff is just MSI. (Or rarely - testing only, I think,
> > MSP.) So there's a difference right off.
> >
> > I wonder (list owners willing) if it is time to play "what do we know?"
> >
> >
> > Keith Douglas
> > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A
> > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589
> > Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada |
> > Gouvernement du Canada
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com]
> > Sent: September-08-14 2:41 PM
> > To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not
> > create the default key container
> >
> > I am sure that Microsoft will ultimately have to make a fix, but I
> > have a lot of installers out in the wild, and I feel very exposed when
> > none of my testers can replicate.  I'm much more interested in
> > understanding the mechanism of failure--especially since I can't
> currently replicate.
> >
> > Also, it is very hard to justify to management invoking our support
> > agreement when the issue does not reproduce with any of our product
> > installers.  Much easier if I can replicate.
> >
> > I'm basically trying to figure out what is different in our installers
> > and deployment scenarios such that we don't see this issue.
> >
> > --
> > John Merryweather Cooper
> > Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications |
> > Continuing Development Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® | Lenexa, KS
> 66214 | Ext:
> > 431050 |jocoo...@jackhenry.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sascha Sertel [mailto:sascha.ser...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 1:29 PM
> > To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not
> > create the default key container
> >
> > The issue is very easily reproducible for me when doing an upgrade
> > from one bundle to another one. I emailed Keith links to two
> > installers that have 100% repro for me when upgrading from the one to
> > the other while having
> > KB2918614 installed. Repros on any machine.
> >
> > I'm happy to share some logs but given that KB2918614 directly
> > determines whether the upgrade fails or works I don't know if there is
> > anything that can be done to fix this from our end, it seems to me
> > like Microsoft needs to reissue the hotfix or have another hotfix that
> fixes the broken one.
> >
> > // Sascha
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM, John Cooper <jocoo...@jackhenry.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I haven't been able to reproduce this using signed or unsigned MSIs
> > > deploying in an "Open" or "Closed" Environment.
> > >
> > > I would be very happy to take a look at some verbose logs of the
> > failures.
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Merryweather Cooper
> > > Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications |
> > > Continuing Development Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® | Lenexa, KS
> > > 66214 | Ext:  431050 | jocoo...@jackhenry.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca
> > > [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:40 AM
> > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not
> > > create the default key container
> > >
> > > I've now tried a "small update". I've never fully understood why
> > > you’d use these, but my co-workers wanted to use MSPs for some of
> > > our updating, so I built a front end for making those and hence
> > > small updates. That all to say that I may be doing something unusual
> > > or "wrong" with them. However, that disclaimer aside, I cannot
> > > reproduce
> > any trouble with that either.
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith Douglas
> > > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> > > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A
> > > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589
> > > Facsimile
> > > | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du
> > > | Canada
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca
> > > [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca]
> > > Sent: September-08-14 8:41 AM
> > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not
> > > create the default key container
> > >
> > > Ah! There seems to be some confusion on this point. I will see.
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith Douglas
> > > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> > > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A
> > > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589
> > > Facsimile
> > > | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du
> > > | Canada
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nicolás Alvarez [mailto:nicolas.alva...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: September-06-14 1:27 PM
> > > To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not
> > > create the default key container
> > >
> > > 2014-09-05 17:15 GMT-03:00  <keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca>:
> > > > I've gotten hold of a Windows 7 x64 VM and tried installing,
> > > uninstalling, repairing a few dinky products we have built
> > > installers for over the last while. Even added a new one with a
> > > large (100 megabytes
> > > uncompressed) payload. Tried with and without UAC for all. No
> > > troubles at all with the trouble KB installed. User was a domain
> > > account, for what that is worth.
> > >
> > > Well, previous messages indicate the problem is with minor updates.
> > > Did you try updates, or only install/uninstall/repair?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nicolás
> > >
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