On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:54:54 +0200 Lubos Lunak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> I yet to have actually see somebody saying a single reason why this is really application developers want it AND end application and wm users want it too. i second bradley's comments. recently i found a bug with xmms on amd64 - it doesnt handle 64bit properly which means its mwm hints are messed up and have memory garbage in some of the fields. i have had to spend time debugging my code on;y to find it was fine - the properties on the amd64 box were screwed. the issue was brought to me by several users complaining - wondering why their xmms didnt work properly. they considered the border beign there to be a bug - an issue - something they didnt expect and didnt want. > needed. Why should any app be able to forcibly control whether it should or > should not have decorations? Even the xmms/gkrellm examples are rather > non-convincing - if I decide I don't want any decorations for gkrellm I can > simply turn them off in KWin, and the same for xmms. And I can control xmms' > window-related functionality directly using KWin anyway, just with Alt+F3, so > if I decide I don't want decorations for it, I don't need xmms drawing > another set for me (which I moreover cannot get rid of, unlike KWin's). So > what good should this hint be for? > > > In the end what good is a window manager > > without applications ? > > -- > Lubos Lunak > KDE developer > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Drahobejlova 27 tel: +420 2 9654 2373 > 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 2 9654 2374 > Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ > _______________________________________________ > wm-spec-list mailing list > wm-spec-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/wm-spec-list > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) _______________________________________________ wm-spec-list mailing list wm-spec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/wm-spec-list