On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Carlos R. Mafra wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 at 12:14:30 +0100, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
I'd add wmnd to control network interfaces.) If some default set is
included then they should be Suggests instead of Requires if the
packaging system supports that (rpm and dpkg does) because they are
really optional.
Everybody has their own preferences and that's OK.
But what really makes me sad about the default minimalistic approach
is that it makes it harder for other people to try wmaker.
This does not oppose to that. Using Suggests instead of Requires installs
the default configuration the same way, but unlike Requires it allows
avoiding to install stuff that one doesn't need for those who know what
they prefer.
I see people saying "yeah, ok, it's a nice and clean interface and
I like it, but the easiness to mount my external media makes me go
back to GNOME".
This is really a problem but I think wmudmount does not solve it
completely either (and anyhing else not using udev/udisks is obsolete).
With wmudmount it takes one click to mount and two clicks to remove a USB
drive instead of mounting happening automatically and removing with one
click like in Xfce/GNOME/KDE. So even if you include such a dock app by
default people could say it's still easier in in GNOME and use that
instead.
And that just makes me sad, because distros could be more useful
in setting up a decent wmaker for a decent user experience. Stuborn
and hacky people will always find their way to enlightenment, but
others give up.
Another idea would be, instead of trying to come up with one set of
dockapps to fit everybody's needs, to make it simple to install and start
dockapps and allow users to dock them easily to customise their
environments (a bit like extensions in Firefox). This could be as simple
as having some dockapps packaged and installed via Suggests and having a
menu from where they can be started and if the user likes them they can
dock them. This allows customisation and avoids the "one size fits all"
problem. (This menu and the way to use the dock and clip could be hinted
in an info panel to make it easier for new users.)
Regards,
BALATON Zoltan
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