Bob,

Agreed. I now just do XHTML 1.1. There is no 'strict'; just markup.

There are countless pros and cons (like the IE xml prelude) but it's helped
me get a better understanding of the markup business.

There are times when, instead of procrastinating and arguing with the rights
and wrongs of a standard, you just accept it and get on with it until
something better thought out and implemented comes along -- including
browser tag parsing in IE.

More than anything, running with XHTML 1.1 has helped me develop a mindset
in anticipation of XML and the constructs involved.

(And I'm a TS3 Pro man. Great editor.)

Mike Pepper
Accessible Web Developer
www.seowebsitepromotion.com


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Behalf Of Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
Sent: 15 May 2004 12:35
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Subject: Re: [WSG] XHTML/HTML


The voices are telling me that YoYoEtc said on 5/14/2004 5:57 PM:

> So does that mean if I put "XHTML 1.0 Transitional that any code that is
> of either HTML 4.0 or XHTML 1.0 will be accepted by validators?
>
> I see my validator is presently set at HTML 4.0 Transitional so I assume
> that means that the validator will accept anything between HTML 3.2
> (which I believe is the version just prior to 4.0) or 4.0.

Pretty much.  I'd like to throw in an opinion I haven't seen much
around these parts: the darn spec is five years old, isn't it about
time we go to strict?

And so I did.  And what I discovered, apart from a few things which
are annoyances at first (you'll be surprised what kinds of things
have to be enclosed in paragraph or div marks) that it wasn't that
hard.  Seriously.  It wasn't that hard.

What's more, I'm writing (well, mostly Amaya and TopStyle are
writing) actual XHTML.  The "transitional" part just admits a whole
bunch of extra crap in there which is mostly *not* semantic markup
(imho).  A small, simple subset of HTML (with a couple of grammar
tweaks like <img... /> and <meta... />).

And what I'm left with is web pages that don't need to be scraped,
they can be *parsed*.  Data miners?  I'm ready.  Active server
pages?  Like rolling off a log.  When you've got your content into
semantic XHTML markup, each part practically sits up and tells you
what table in your database it belongs in.

I think going halfway you're just borrowing trouble.  Valid XHTML
Strict is a much smaller set of valid words than valid XHTML
Transitional.  So simplify, learn the smaller set.
--
Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen
bob at crispen dot org
Ex Cathedra Weblog: http://blog.crispen.org/

Some people just don't know how to drive... I call these people
"Everybody But Me"
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