If we are going to make sites that only work in certain browsers why not just code to IE's standards and not bother with the obscure browsers like firefox and opera. That way we don't need standards at all! I can have my marquee tag back and my ActiveX controls - Ill be able to do all kinds of great things. After all nearly everyone uses IE...
Seriously though, If you are going to take this hardline attitude by purposefully excluding users of certain browsers then you may as well do what I was saying above. Don't loose site of the objective - with standards we are trying to let more browsers work with our sites not less. Don't get too bitter about IE people it's not good for your health. Quoting Nick Gleitzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, at 08:11 PM, Giles Clark wrote: > <snip> > > Isn't it about time we took a more active role in shaping the future of > > browsers. We could clearly state that as a community we write/develop > > for a > > list of acceptable browsers which comply to standards (we're just > > going to > > have to live wiht IE - market forces). Hopefully non-compliant browsers > > would simply not be developed, because the pages would break in it. If > > a new > > browser complies then it can see the pages we have developed. No > > worries. > </snip - original post for full version> > > 'We're just going to have to live with IE' - there's the rub. > > Over and over, in these threads, we see developers aiming their work at > IE 'because it's the browser used by most people'. And why's that? > Because it's integrated with the OS of the most popular computing > platform on the planet. Never mind that it, and the OS, are lemons. The > 'market forces' are one of the most successful business enterprises in > history. IE is here to stay, whether we like it or not. > > Suggesting that we build sites that break in the most used browser and > then telling the frustrated site visitors that their software's not up > to it is committing our clients to commercial suicide. You'd probably > be amazed, and alarmed, at the proportion of people out there that > don't even know that they have a choice when it comes to browsers. They > use what comes pre-loaded on their PC; they allow auto updates (maybe); > they get a new browser when they get a new PC. > > As developers, we need to remember that not all our site visitors spend > as many hours in front of their PCs as we do. They don't understand > Standards, and they don't want to. Their maxim: 'Don't make me think.' > If a site works, fine. Our clients, with our help, can communicate with > them, hopefully in a meaningful way. If it doesn't, we've lost them. > And they won't be back. All they know, or care about, is that 'this > site doesn't work'. There's a hundred mores sites just waiting in the > wings to supply whatever yours couldn't. > > The best route to change of a system you don't agree with is from > within. Get a job at Microsoft, and bring all the influence to bear > that you can to ensure that their next generation browser - codenamed > Wombat, or Aardvaark, or whatever it is - is Standards compliant. But > let's be realistic: legacy browsers, pain in the arse that they are, > aren't going away for a few years yet. So let's make our sites work in > them. We're in the communication business, yes? > > (Note: 'Clients' means anyone a site is being built for - including > yourself. Doesn't mean money has to change hands.) > > I think that's 3c - Nick > ___________________________ > Omnivision. Websight. > http://www.omnivision.com.au/ > > ***************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ***************************************************** > > ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *****************************************************
