> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Neerav > > 1. You may want to research the pros and cons of automated accessibility > testing
I completely agree that automated accessibility tests are not efficient enough to rate a website accessible. However, there are reasons why these tests ask for default place-holders, which I do not want to plainly ignore, just because they have been requested by Bobby. > 2. what do you mean by "password place-holder" ? If I put a default place-holder into a form field with the type="password", it obviously appears as "***********". That's the bit I would like to avoid, yet for accessibility reasons it may be required to provide it. There's a discussion going on whether default place-holders are really necessary or not. Appearantly there are some browsers or assistive technologies that do not find form elements if they don't have a default text in them. > Neerav Bhatt > > Andreas Boehmer wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I have got a website (www.jet.org.au) that passes Bobby almost with AAA, > > with the exception of the default place holders. The reason I > do not want to > > put them into the site is because every page has got a login form at the > > top. With the default place-holders, the login form would look something > > like this: > > > > Username: Enter username > > Password: ************ > > > > The password place-holder looks pretty useless and confusing to me. Most > > users will plain wonder what that is supposed to do, it's not > really helpful > > at all. > > > > So I'd love to hear your opinions on this one? Shall I enter > them just to > > pass the accessibility tests, or leave them out for (in my > opinion) better > > usability? Being so close to AAA and not reaching it is frustrating. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Andreas. > > > > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > > ****************************************************** > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************