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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Terrence Wood
>
> Place holder text is only required for textarea and text input:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#forms-specific.
>
> The reasons are: it makes it easier to tab through inputs without having
> to read/hear the entire form, and; some assistive technologies can't
> find form's properly without it. It is a requirement (mostly) for
> legacy browsers, but I am aware of a recent browser for blind and sight
> impaired people that parses out labels and leaves only the input field.
> So without placeholder text forms make absolutely no sense at all.

Could you tell me which browsers you know of that have difficulties with the
empty field?
If they do have difficulties, wouldn't it be required to put the default
text into all of the form fields, not only textarea and text input? Wouldn't
those browsers skip my password field, if it is left empty?

Thanks for the feedback, guys.

>
> On 4/10/04 5:06 PM, Andreas Boehmer wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I have got a website (www.jet.org.au) that passes Bobby almost with AAA,
> > with the exception of the default place holders. The reason I
> do not want to
> > put them into the site is because every page has got a login form at the
> > top. With the default place-holders, the login form would look something
> > like this:
> >
> > Username: Enter username
> > Password: ************
> >
> > The password place-holder looks pretty useless and confusing to me. Most
> > users will plain wonder what that is supposed to do, it's not
> really helpful
> > at all.
> >
> > So I'd love to hear your opinions on this one? Shall I enter
> them just to
> > pass the accessibility tests, or leave them out for (in my
> opinion) better
> > usability? Being so close to AAA and not reaching it is frustrating.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Andreas.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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