Hi Darren Just joined the list a couple of hours ago...Anyway, our main site - www.mch.govt.nz - is quite close to getting there - though not yet perfect (what is?) it generally validates and does all that stuff. We're in the process of doing a major redesign which will be very much standards-driven from concept (the current version is me trying to fix the tag soup that was there before..).
I've also done some more complicated stuff on our nzhistory.net.nz site (also in desparate need of a revamp) including this mult-media monster: http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/parlt-hist/index.html . More recently, I did the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior site, which is also a .govt.nz one: http://www.nationalwarmemorial.govt.nz/unknown/index.html So don't despair too much, you are not alone! Also, while I think the Radio NZ one is ok, I think the Radio NZ International one is better: http://www.rnzi.com/index.php (though I'm not a great fan of columns that slide together with a narrowing window). Cheers Jamie Mackay Web Editor / Researcher Ministry for Culture and Heritage New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Wood Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2004 4:19 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] New Zealand Web Standards?? This may be completely off topic, but I feel I should rant to you lot as you all share my views... I've noticed quite a few kiwis on this list, and that is *awesome*! It means more standards based design and development in our fair land...or so you'd think. I get _very_ depressed when i see high profile[1] new zealand sites completely drop the ball[2]... A few months back (maybe even a year) the NZ government released web guidelines for all their websites.[3] Sure, this is meant to apply only to government sites, but i think every New Zealand web developer should read this document and try to at least adhere to some of these guidelines when building websites. So far I've seen one NZ government site[4] that bothers to adhere. (I'm sure their must be more, and I'd love see them so I can feel a little better about being a web developer in NZ.) Am i missing something? Am i over sensitive? Much love and respect, Darren http://dontcom.com ps - If I didn't love Aotearoa so much I'd move to Australia so i could work with people who actually care about web standards...(present kiwis excluded, of course) -------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] http://tvnz.co.nz - Inaccessible, slow, Flash, non-standards, table based. [2] http://nzherald.co.nz - I'm speechless. This is trash and the reason i wrote this email. [3] http://www.e-government.govt.nz/web-guidelines/ - Brilliant! [4] http://www.radionz.co.nz/ - Probably one of the first to go standards based. ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ********************************************************************** The information contained in this email message is intended only for the addressee and is not necessarily the official view or communication of the Ministry for Culture and Heritage. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please email or telephone the sender immediately. ********************************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************