On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 11:35 +0100, designer wrote: > Hi Joshua, et al, > > Let me put it the other way around: A lot of designers love to use > pixels for font sizing. AFAIK, the only problem with it is that users > can't resize text in IE. If they could, that would be great. With tools > such as this, they can. So what I mean is : should it be that we all > push for a) all browsers to do this, and b) 'advertise' the existence of > such tools as an interim measure, and [most importantly] would it solve > some of our problems?
Do we love to use pixels for font sizing because it has any intrinsic advantage, or simply because we'd rather be designing for print? This list has seen some debates of epic proportions in the past months regarding font sizes, and I recognise this is a little different, but isn't it worth thinking _why_ designers love to use pixel-based font sizing? Are these the same designers that don't embrace fluid layouts? (I'm not saying that because fluid layouts are intrinsically better, just that it's a good thing to have an open mind towards) If you're talking about an Opera-esque zoom that scales images as well, then there's a problem there because, well, scaled raster images look like crap. As designers, we should be opposed to that. As CSS and web standards advocates, we should recognise that needn't be a problem if we adopt design practises that enable us to build layouts that are sufficiently flexible to enable us to use relative font sizing, whilst the rest of the layout remains static (obviously within reason -- it's generally safe to assume no-one is going to resize your text greater than 250%!) And, if you don't mean a whole-site zoom like Opera uses, but rather just a text-resizing feature (ala Firefox, et al.), then it's really worth asking why on earth you were using pixels in the first place, as you know that you're ultimately relinquishing control, and all you're really doing is irritating your users by not respecting their text-size defaults. Kind Regards, Joshua Street base10solutions Website: http://www.base10solutions.com.au/ Phone: (02) 9898-0060 Fax: (02) 8572-6021 Mobile: 0425 808 469 Multimedia Development Agency ________________________________________________________________________ E-mails and any attachments sent from base10solutions are to be regarded as confidential. Please do not distribute or publish any of the contents of this e-mail without the sender’s consent. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to the e-mail, and then delete the message without making copies or using it in any way. Although base10solutions takes precautions to ensure that e-mail sent from our accounts are free of viruses, we encourage recipients to undertake their own virus scan on each e-mail before opening, as base10solutions accepts no responsibility for loss or damage caused by the contents of this e-mail. ________________________________________________________________________ ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************