Not really because it cuts into UI design. But i see what you mean, i have
it under control.

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Darren West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cool design, maybe you could reveal the sublnks onClick? then keep the
> panel open and repopulate with the relevant links as you move over the
> navigation links.
>
> If you have the time/money in the project, it would be well worth
> doing user testing :-)
>
> We maybe veering away from the purpose of this mailing list
>
>
> 2008/6/6 James Jeffery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > The same image but with the content and withut the dropdown showing:
> > http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=standard01qi5.png
> >
> > I think it might work without the dropdown. I will have to speak to the
> > youth centre manager on Wednesday.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:34 PM, James Jeffery
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here is an example of the NEW idea:
> >> http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3992/standard01yo8.png
> >>
> >> This has got me thinking though. If there is going to be a sub
> navigation
> >> part on every page is there really any need for the dropdown?
> >>
> >> By adding the dropdown the only benefit the user will get is that they
> >> don't have to click twice to get to a section/sub page. For example to
> >> access "Maypole Radio" they select other services and click. Without it
> they
> >> would have to click "Other Services" and select from the static sub
> >> navigation menu.
> >>
> >> I am not sure if its going to be worth it in the end. Obviously the
> static
> >> sub navigation is going to be amust so that i can cover everything. The
> >> Suckerfish menu now seems useless in a way. If i leave it there it may
> add
> >> extra confusion to the navigation of the website. If you get what i
> mean.
> >>
> >> Cheers for the input so far.
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM, James Jeffery
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> With the pure CSS version, and using Javascript to take care of IE 5,
> you
> >>> can ensure it will work with browsers with JS disabled. Thats why i
> chose to
> >>> use the Suckerfish style dropdowns. Also you can add some extra
> behvaiour
> >>> ontop of the pure CSS menu's.
> >>>
> >>> I think maybe the best solution would be to display sub link on the sub
> >>> pages. Save all the hassle of using conditionals and stuff. I did think
> >>> about doing it this way at first but then started wondering about user
> >>> experience and possible confusion.
> >>>
> >>> It's always the simple approaches that tend to be the best.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your support fellow CSS'ers
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ]
> >>>> On
> >>>> Behalf Of James Jeffery
> >>>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:49 AM
> >>>> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> >>>> Subject: [WSG] Suckerfish and IE 5 with no Javascript
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe i am being a little bit picky with this.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a suckerfish dropdown, as i feel it is the best approach for
> >>>> cross-browser (but not A grade) dropdowns. The website i am working on
> >>>> is a
> >>>> youth centre's. The target audience is the community, which can be
> young
> >>>> or
> >>>> very old. The very old "may" be using IE 5 on older computers (at a
> >>>> guess).
> >>>> If they have JS disabled and are using IE 5 then they cannot view the
> >>>> navigation links.
> >>>>
> >>>> Whats your views on the best way around this?
> >>>>
> >>>> I was thinking about sing PHP to determine what browser the user is
> >>>> using
> >>>> and if JS is enabled. If its IE 5 and it is not enabled then when a
> user
> >>>> clicks a link from the navigation menu the page will load but under
> the
> >>>> navigation will be another div that lists the links uder that sub
> >>>> heading.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------
> >>>> |   nav   nav   nav  nav  nav  nav  nav |
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------
> >>>> |   sub link                         sub link |
> >>>> |   sub link                         sub link |
> >>>> |   sub link                         sub link |
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------
> >>>> all the other content goes on as normal
> >>>>
> >>>> Only users who are using a browser that does not support the hover
> >>>> psudeo
> >>>> selector on anything other than a elements will see that box. It will
> be
> >>>> generated using PHP before the page loads.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was thinking about doing that for all the users, and have that
> >>>> displaying
> >>>> regardless, but that may add confusion to the user experience i feel.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi James,
> >>>> I have these two:
> >>>> http://tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe they are compatible with ie5 Win and Mac
> >>>>
> >>>> But if you ask me, I'd say the best approach would be to use a good JS
> >>>> menu
> >>>> rather than a "pure CSS solution".
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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