Check my examples i posted and my recent posts, they show what i mean. I
think in the case of this design it can work fine without the dropdown menu.

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Joe Ortenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> then you need to be aware at build time that when javascript off, and
> nested navigation is therefore expanded in order to provide equal access to
> features for people without dependence to javascript, the design needs to
> allow for this.
> having the nav overlap content is pretty unnecessary anyway.
>
> Sorry but bad design, planning and and architecture is not an excuse...
>
> You could, for example, not have it popout in the first place, negating the
> need to have an alternative solution for others. You could, also, for
> example, only show subnav within a section, negating the need for popouts.
> If your architecture is clear and obvious, and you have plenty of clear
> pointers to the content sections, the popout subnav becomes less necessary.
>
>
> On Jun 6 2008, at 16:18, Darren West wrote:
>
> Joe said:
>
> Therefore if javascript is off, any descended subnav should display in it's
> expanded state.
>
>
> I agree with this pattern for some scenerios, for example with tabbed
> panels, but (depending on the design) surely with drop down navigation
> it would cause usability issues with the expanded states for all drop
> downs overlapping each other and other content
>
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