Or alternately the progress bar for the current sequence could be colored red
or green depending on “progress” of TX or RX respectively.
73 de Bill ND0B
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That Green/Yellow makes sense to me...that coloring matches the rx/tx mode and
the colors on the Rx Frequency list plus the status line. All would show green
on Rx and yellow on Tx.
The main advantage in the red is that it does stand out letting you know you
will be transmitting which is an important distinction. Kind of a "warning"
in-your-face. I must say that I think I'd miss that color....
de Mike W9MDB
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"so are you saying that you want to revert to having no "Halt Tx"
button and have the "Enable Tx" button have two functions that cannot be
separated?"
There was always a Halt TX button but, with the r3673 functionality of Enable
TX, I don't think it was needed. Removing it would not be reversion.
The first step would be to understand why the change from "TX Enable" to "Next
Enable" was made. I see no advantage but I only use JT9 and JT65 on HF and 6m.
I assume there was some advantage in other operating environments.
If the arguments for the change are still valid then, obviously, it won't be
changed back to the simple TX Enable that it used to be in r3673 and earlier.
If that is the case then I hope the description inconsistencies that I listed
earlier will be addressed.
Moving to brainstorming mode - The color red seems inappropriate for the
indicator for either functionality. If tri-state is an option I'd suggest no
fill for no TX possible (no change), Green for auto enable - this message and
the next one will be sent, and Amber for this message is the last one that will
be sent. Colors would change at the end of the TX period or when this button
or Halt TX was pressed.
73,
Andy k3wyc
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1. Re: Disable Tx after RRR/73 (Bill Somerville)
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3. Re: Disable Tx after RRR/73 (Bill Somerville)
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On 02/01/2017 14:54, ANDY DURBIN wrote:
> My preference would be to go back to it being an Enable TX function.
Hi Andy,
the "Enable Tx" button has always been "Enable auto Tx", in fact the
underlying variable name is autoButton and it always has been.
Because the message protocols restrict you to transmitting in only the
first or second period of the sequence the only interpretation of that
button is transmit when it is next possible to do so. That may be now or
at the start of the next suitable period. The "Halt Tx" button is not
the antithesis of "Enable Tx" but it does happen to toggle it off, this
is because it makes sense to not transmit again after a request to "Halt
Tx". Once a transmission is started the "Halt Tx" button is the way to
stop it, toggling "Enable Tx" to off does not do that, it never has.
73
Bill
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"Once a transmission is started the "Halt Tx" button is the way to stop it,
toggling "Enable Tx" to off does not do that, it never has."
Bill,
That assertion is simply not true. I keep v1.3 r3673 on my computer so I can
check things like this. In r3673 pressing the lit "Enable Tx" button while
transmitting a message does stop the message transmission!
"Enable TX" used to be just that - Enable TX - and if it was not lit then no TX
was possible.
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> That assertion is simply not true. I keep v1.3 r3673 on my computer so
> I can check things like this. In r3673 pressing the lit "Enable Tx"
> button while transmitting a message does stop the message transmission!
>
> "Enable TX" used to be just that - Enable TX - and if it was not lit
> then no TX was possible.
>
Hi Andy,
ok, so are you saying that you want to revert to having no "Halt Tx"
button and have the "Enable Tx" button have two functions that cannot be
separated?
73
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I think it's a case of semantics.? If you push "Tx" button on rig it starts
Tx...."Enable Tx" sounds a lot like that.
"Enable Tx Next" might be more appropos.? Even then if you Enable during a Tx
period it starts but at least that still meets the "Next" behavior I think.? Or
"Tx Allowed".
de Mike W9MDB
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On 02/01/2017 16:40, ANDY DURBIN wrote:
That assertion is simply not true. I keep v1.3 r3673 on my computer so I can
check things like this. In r3673 pressing the lit "Enable Tx" button while
transmitting a message does stop the message transmission! "Enable TX" used to
be just that - Enable TX - and if it was not lit then no TX was possible.
Hi Andy, ok, so are you saying that you want to revert to having no "Halt Tx"
button and have the "Enable Tx" button have two functions that cannot be
separated? 73
Bill
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