I'm curious as to how someone knows someone is running a BOT or not?

I mean if the system is running perfectly, and or the operator is also on top of things. How can someone on the other end tell the difference?

Just curious...

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On 4/1/2019 7:58 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:

Hi Wolfgang,

glad to hear your view from across the pond, however, in the US any sort of 'autobot' is illegal as these are not operating as beacons, but as stations with 2 way communications.   You have to have a human behind the rig/monitor to control the station here.

I may have conflated the eBay posting with the QRZ posting, but with them popping up (so to speak) within days of one another it seemed to be a bit more than just a coincidence, although it turns out it was.

73s,

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/1/2019 3:40 AM, Wolfgang wrote:
Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - and Neil's 2 cents Hello Neil,

you mix up your personal view of the scenario!

- long time ago there was a Ham in Greece, made some robot add-ons with
a keyboard macro language and after revealing his activities he was blocked
by the WSJT-X team in the source code ;-) The case can be found in the
[wsjt-devel] email archive.

- the one on ebay is (was) written in a macro language (most probably
'AutoHotkey') and compiled into binaries. This guy inserts the buyers call sign into the macro-code to prevent sharing the software, but the seller stayed anonymous. This was an add-on, or external software, simulates key strokes
etc. without any change in the source code or binaries of WSJT-X at all.
Apparently the person wanted to make money with his external add-on software. Questionable software, but not illegal in some contries. Offer has been removed
in ebay listings. Bad luck, business model lasted short ;-)

- SQ9FVE modified the source code and added some interresting functions plus the optional robot function and a change of the GUI in WSJT-X. He published the binaries in the QRZ.COM forum for free. This was clearly a breach of GPL, because he did not publish the source code and mentioned originators of the
source etc. etc. Download link has been removed.

Looks like 'a storm in a glass of water' right now...

There is a huge number of WSJT-X users with a very wide spectrum of personalities around the globe. Right now, this local monday morning in Europe, pskreporter.info lists the impressive number of 519.066 FT8 counts over the last two hours :-)

So, some have fear of clones, some want to run their robots. But those are only
a few of them. Sooner or later all this will be history.

73's de OE1MWW
Wolfgang

Monday, April 1, 2019, 2:51:59 AM, you wrote:


There was some 'rage' Joe .. but those people were few and far between, and after a few days they were recognized, and the callsign was passed around as a 'bot' and ignored by many.

However, now you have someone who is modifying the code to do this and, according to the eBay post will 'personalize' the code with your callsign, then sell you the compiled program.

Different scenario !!

Neil, KN3ILZ


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