Georg,

there's a difference between receiving Tx and just sending out a 'spot',
and calling CQ & making QSOs without anyone in front of the rig.    That
is illegal in the US, and other countries, but not in all.

Neil, KN3iLZ

On 4/1/2019 9:57 AM, Georg wrote:
Well, my WSJTx receives 24/7 and fully automatically sends all
received stations to PSK-reporter...

I know there is a difference... but I don‘t understand all the fuss.

Bots are easily recognizable. So just ignore them or use them to your
advantage.

73‘s

Georg
NZ1C/DJ6GI

Am 01.04.2019 um 08:58 schrieb Neil Zampella <ne...@techie.com
<mailto:ne...@techie.com>>:

Hi Wolfgang,

glad to hear your view from across the pond, however, in the US any
sort of 'autobot' is illegal as these are not operating as beacons,
but as stations with 2 way communications.   You have to have a human
behind the rig/monitor to control the station here.

I may have conflated the eBay posting with the QRZ posting, but with
them popping up (so to speak) within days of one another it seemed to
be a bit more than just a coincidence, although it turns out it was.

73s,

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/1/2019 3:40 AM, Wolfgang wrote:
Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - and Neil's 2
cents Hello Neil,

you mix up your personal view of the scenario!

- long time ago there was a Ham in Greece, made some robot add-ons with
a keyboard macro language and after revealing his activities he was
blocked
by the WSJT-X team in the source code ;-) The case can be found in the
[wsjt-devel] email archive.

- the one on ebay is (was) written in a macro language (most probably
'AutoHotkey') and compiled into binaries. This guy inserts the
buyers call
sign into the macro-code to prevent sharing the software, but the
seller stayed
anonymous. This was an add-on, or external software, simulates key
strokes
etc. without any change in the source code or binaries of WSJT-X at
all.
Apparently the person wanted to make money with his external add-on
software.
Questionable software, but not illegal in some contries. Offer has
been removed
in ebay listings. Bad luck, business model lasted short ;-)

- SQ9FVE modified the source code and added some interresting
functions plus
the optional robot function and a change of the GUI in WSJT-X. He
published
the binaries in the QRZ.COM <http://QRZ.COM> forum for free. This
was clearly a breach of GPL,
because he did not publish the source code and mentioned originators
of the
source etc. etc. Download link has been removed.

Looks like 'a storm in a glass of water' right now...

There is a huge number of WSJT-X users with a very wide spectrum of
personalities
around the globe. Right now, this local monday morning in Europe,
pskreporter.info <http://pskreporter.info>
lists the impressive number of 519.066 FT8 counts over the last two
hours :-)

So, some have fear of clones, some want to run their robots. But
those are only
a few of them. Sooner or later all this will be history.

73's de OE1MWW
Wolfgang

Monday, April 1, 2019, 2:51:59 AM, you wrote:


There was some 'rage' Joe .. but those people were few and far
between, and after a few days they were recognized, and the callsign
was passed around as a 'bot' and ignored by many.

However, now you have someone who is modifying the code to do this
and, according to the eBay post will 'personalize' the code with
your callsign, then sell you the compiled program.

Different scenario !!

Neil, KN3ILZ


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