There was some 'rage' Joe .. but those people were few and far between,
and after a few days they were recognized, and the callsign was passed
around as a 'bot' and ignored by many.
However, now you have someone who is modifying the code to do this and,
according to the eBay post will 'personalize' the code with your
callsign, then sell you the compiled program.
Different scenario !!
Neil, KN3ILZ
On 3/31/2019 6:38 PM, Joe wrote:
Thing that is funny about this rage?
People are fuming about how someone modified the program to make a
robot QSO Maker.
Where was all the rage when it was like a week after FT-8 was first
released. where someone automated it way back then? I mean it was very
simple to do. No coding skills or anything at all.
Take a small free program like "Auto Mouse Click" and 5 minutes later,
you have a QSO Robot.
Funny, never heard any rage back then.
Joe WB9SBD
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On 3/31/2019 2:52 PM, James Shaver wrote:
Add me to that list. Well said, as always, Bill.
Jim S.
N2ADV
On Mar 31, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Bobby Chandler <bob...@bellsouth.net
<mailto:bob...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
Bravo Bill! I agree 100%.
Bobby/N4AU
*From:* Bill Somerville
*Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2019 11:53 AM
*To:* wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - my 2 cents
On 31/03/2019 17:12, Carey Fisher wrote:
All I have to say, and I've been saying for some time now, is that
maybe developers will now think twice before releasing software
such as this as Open Source.
Carey,
that shows a major misunderstanding of both Open Source software and
the complexity of WSJT-X. WSJT-X uses two major components provided
by third-party teams that are themselves Open Source. There are no
other free equivalent components of sufficient quality and scope and
writing our own would take many man-years of effort and ongoing
maintenance. These components give us an essential leg up to
providing a portable cross-platform application of the highest
quality with reasonable development timescales. There are reasons
why many closed source applications are Windows only and these
factors are high on the list.
Aside from that, of the latest two "robot" offerings being touted,
one does not require any changes to WSJT-X source code and the other
is being offered as a contribution with the contentious robotic
parts removed. Either way the WSJT team have no interest in WSJT-X
being used as a QSO robot and the automation that has been provided
already is only in response to large scale user demand. For example
auto-sequencing and "Call 1st" were deemed necessary for FT8 because
the small thinking time between decodes completing and the next
transmission period requires super-human concentration and reaction
times. For QSO modes like FT8 we have a basic user interface rule
that each QSO must be initiated by some operator action, e.g.
calling CQ or replying to a CQ. At the end of a QSO for normal DX
contacts the user has the final say on whether a completed QSO is
logged, WSJT-X will prompt the user to log a QSO but they must take
further action to confirm a good contact or reject a bad one. There
are other operator aids for high QSO rate situations, like contest
operating and running a rare and popular DX operation, related to
logging QSOs but the requirement for an operator action to initiate
each QSO is always maintained.
What is worth noting is that the small WSJT development team expends
a lot of thought and time on how to combat rogue patched versions
and add-on tools that attempt to exceed the levels of automation we
deem sufficient. These are either misguided or malicious. This
detracts from core development and maintenance and we would rather
not have to give up that effort.
On a personal note; my opinion on QSO robots, aside from their
questionable legality in many countries, is that most Amateur Radio
operators would not consider a QSO with a machine to be worthwhile
and to find out that they had done so unknowingly would be very
annoying. For those that attempt to deploy such robots, I suggest
they go a step further and dispense with the radio equipment and use
their PC skills to mock up the certificates and awards and print
them directly, that way no one else is being disappointed and they
can save themselves a whole lot of cost and time building,
operating, and maintaining an Amateur Radio station.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
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