Hello Rich-

I'm sure the WSJT development team would be very interested in having your
".wav" files for analysis. I do not run a browser on the PC that runs my
Flex Radio and WSJT.
Have a Surface Pro tablet to run the browser apps. With Chrome each tab can
use a lot of memory. The fact that the .wav files playback with a low
number of decodes means they are defective in some way.
The recording process was corrupt. Sending the files to Mike Black might be
a good place to start.
Finally, if you can not move Chrome to a different computer you may find
rebooting daily another way to get around the problem.

Hope this helps.

Bill W2PKY



On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:28 PM Rich - K1HTV <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bill - W2PKY,
> Thanks for the idea of playing back the WAV files which had few or no
> decodes.  I played the WAV files back and they sound normal, full of
> signals but still decode few if any of them when I play them back for
> decoding.
>
> I wonder if WSJT-X has a shared memory buffer which another program had
> access to which caused part of the decoding part of the program to produce
> the poor decodes. Another thing that I noticed was that when there were FT8
> decodes on the odd cycles, at times most of the decoded signals had a DT of
> 0.1 then in some of the next receive cycles almost all decoded stations had
> a DT of 0.4 seconds. Then they would be back to 0.1 second DT numbers.
> However, when the problem occured, as I checked the PC clock a number of
> times using the "time.is" URL, it indicated "Your time is Exact" usually
> within 1- milliseconds of exact.
>
> My station is band switching and decoding 24/7. I've left all normally
> used programs running but have shut down Chrome. So far, in the past few
> days the problem has not re-occurred. Maybe Chrome is the culprit. The last
> time when the problem occured, Chrome was consuming over 1 GB of RAM, still
> far less than the available 16GB but still a lot. Once the problem starts,
> shutting down Chrome and apps doesn't fix it, only a reboot of the computer.
>
> Thanks also for the suggestion about checking if standby memory is being
> used when the problem occurs. Will have to do that.
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bill B <[email protected]>
> To: WSJT software development <[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 21:56:27 -0400
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel]
> Hello Rich-
> Have you listened to the .wav files to see if they sound clean and
> undistorted?
>
> Windows allows audio channels to be monitored. Open sound control panel >
> recording tab, locate input device > properties > listen tab > click listen
> to this device.
> Listen to the audio quality when the app fails to decode everything that’s
> in the waterfall.
>
> Bring up Task Manager > performance > open resource monitor > Memory and
> check if Standby memory is used up. That’s when my system starts acting
> strange. You may need to reboot more often.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Bill W2PKY
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 16, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Mike Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I have been seeing cycles with only a few decode counts on busy bands
> periodically
>
>
>
> I am usually run 2 WJST-X instances 24/7 comparing the decode count each
> cycle of a new SDR rig while I am working on it, compared to my K3, both on
> the same antenna.  I watch the decode count number and waterfall images
> constantly, but not the actual decodes much.  I do not reboot very often,
> the short decode count only happen to me once then back to normal. I blamed
> that on the possibility the missing decodes would appear in the next decode
> group as late decodes, but I have not verified that happens/happened.  Need
> to look  at that next time.   I usually see it a few times a day. I will
> look to see if it is odd or even as well.  This is 2.4.0-rc4.  It occurred
> on earlier rc versions, maybe on 2.3 also.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> K7MDL  EL87sm & CN88sf
>
>
>
> *From:* Rich - K1HTV <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2021 08:14
> *To:* WSJT <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [wsjt-devel] Few FT8 decodes on Even cycles
>
>
>
> In the past couple of months, using both the GA and the RC versions of
> WSJT-X, I've been plagued with an intermittent decode problem while running
> FT8. I am using Win10 on a dual core i5-2500 @ 3.3GHz with 16GB of RAM. It
> may take days and sometimes less for the problem to occur. On a busy 20
> Meter band, the decode count and corresponding number of decodes are
> normally between 30 and 60 per 15 second FT8 sequence.
>
>
>
> When the problem develops, with a full waterfall display, on the *odd
> cycles*, only 4 to 8 signals are decoded and counted. On the *even cycles* 
> only
> a few and often NONE of the many dozen signals are decoded. The DT on most
> of the few decoded signals is usually 0.1 seconds, so it's not a clock
> issue.
>
>
>
> The only fix is to reboot the computer and then the count goes back to the
> 30 to 60 decodes on both even and odd 15 second cycles.
>
>
>
> When the problem occurs, checking with Task Manager, the max CPU usage on
> WSJT-X peaks at less than 5% and the max total CPU usage with other apps is
> no more than 20% on peaks. A max of 30% of the 16GB RAM is being used. I
> use the Chrome browser, using 300-800MB of RAM. When I shut down Chrome and
> all other apps, there doesn't appear to be any phantom occurrences of their
> processes running, but the very poor decoding problem still exists.
>
>
>
> I turned on WSJT-X "Save all" and played back the saved WAV files and the
> number of decodes matched the low counter readings noted for the same
> sequences. I switched from using the Elecraft K3 USB CODEC to using the
> sound card with audio from the K3 Line Out jack and get the same poor
> performance when the problem arises.
>
>
>
> As I said, only a reboot of the computer will bring things back to normal.
> I'm at a loss to figure out what is causing this intermittent problem and
> how to correct it. Does anyone have any ideas of the cause and how it can
> be fixed? Thanks.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Rich - K1HTV
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