Neil,

I wish to take a moment please to outline what I see is the problem with
the configuration options as a solution that everyone keeps answering with
when this comes up. I dont think the case why the configuration mode
changes annoy many has ever been clearly articulated.

If I am tuning around the band and see some FT8, dial my receiver onto it
and see what is happening. If I see they are running in F/H mode - then if
I use configurations to change to that mode,  I need to often a) add a
frequency to the config, b) reselect the frequency I was just on and c)
loose the waterfall history I would want to use to pick where to drop my
transmitter to start calling.

In quick fire DX Chasing that is all lost time and multiplication of effort
that to be frank is a PITA.

The reason people keep asking for a button to switch to hound mode and back
on the main screen is so they can do what people should more naturally be
doing - that is spin the dial of their radio, look at what's on the band,
and then pick the right mode to work what they hear *quickly and
efficiently*. Sure the work arounds work - but they are clunky and kludgy
to a DX operator.

The alternative solutions might be - preserve the
frequency/band/sub-frequency settings across a configuration settings
change and get the waterfall not to be reset when you swap configurations.
I believe that would be much more work for the programming team than having
a simple tick switch linked to hound mode on / off on the main page. Having
said that, the developers have made it clear they are not interested - so
yes it is also a lost cause.

Oh and to those that say "grab the source and roll your own" - not everyone
can or has the time to write software and roll their own.

Regards,
Grant VK5GR





On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 11:55 AM Neil Zampella via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> In your case I would suggest create a separate CONFIGURATION for each mode
> you're using.    You can setup one for regular use, then one for other
> special modes such as the NA VHF contest, Field Day, Fox & Hound, etc.
>
> All you need to do is switch over to the mode you're going to use by
> selecting the configuration.
>
> I've been using this feature since it was first created.
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
> On 10/10/2021 6:12 PM, Dennis Younker NE6I wrote:
>
> Put me down for also wishing to have that on the main screen. Or more
> accurately in my case, having a check box or link on the main screen that
> is linked to Special Operating Activity. Yes, handy to quickly go to and
> from F/H mode but also convenient at the start and end of one of the
> contests listed on the Advanced tab. I have, for example, operated an NA
> VHF Contest over a weekend and then forgot to uncheck the box after the
> contest. And then been bitten for a moment later in the week when operating
> normal FT8 or MSK.
>
>
>
> I am not a programmer and not interested in becoming one (again). It’s
> great that the source code is available for anyone to modify to their
> heart’s content but I’m not interested in doing that. I did a lot of
> programming and compiling of code several decades ago, and spent MANY an
> all nighter doing that. That ship has now sailed for me, and I’m not
> interested in getting on board again.
>
>
>
> I am hugely appreciative of K1JT and the entire WSJT-X team for their
> work. I for one know how much time and effort goes into this. It’s truly a
> labor of love.
>
>
>
> --Dennis NE6I
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Stillinger via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 10, 2021 9:53 AM
> *To:* WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Cc:* Jeff Stillinger <kb6...@zohomail.com> <kb6...@zohomail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request: Hound Mode
>
>
>
> Not exactly a secret.  For building on Microsoft virus, the sdk is located
> here:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/jtsdk/
>
> It is my understanding that it's going through some updates, but what is
> posted should work.  Last time I played with it was back in version 1.7.  I
> haven't kept up with that platform since I do everything on Linux.
>
>
>
> On 10/10/21 10:43 AM, Jon Anhold wrote:
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
>
>
> Yes, I agree - I am a contributor to some other open source projects.
> Thanks for your helpful suggestion.
>
>
>
> I've given that some thought, but at least the last time I looked the
> build process / toolkit for building WSJT-X on Windows is like top secret
> or something, and I haven't spent any time recently trying to uncover it or
> get it to build.
>
>
>
> Also, unfortunately, it doesn't seem that the authors are very open to
> pull requests, so I make feature suggestions here.
>
>
>
> Thanks & 73 de KM8V Jon
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:37 AM Jeff Stillinger via wsjt-devel <
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> How about an alternative to your prediction.   WSJT-X is open source.  You
> have complete access to the source code, and one of the wonderful
> conveniences of the package is the ability to customize the software to a
> specific style of station operations.
>
> That is the fancy and PC way to say, if you want a button somewhere
> specific, then you are free to put it there.  There are no licensing
> restrictions, other than your modification would stay local to your
> station.   All of the compilers and libraries are also free and open
> source.
>
> Have at it and let us know about your progress.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/9/21 9:05 PM, Jon Anhold via wsjt-devel wrote:
>
> I know that this is going to get ignored, or I'm going to be told to "make
> a configuration" to "solve" this problem, but I'll again put in a vote to
> have a Hound mode checkbox on the main screen to switch in and out of that
> mode.
>
>
>
> There are several DXPeditions right now, some running Fox/Hound mode,
> others running multi-stream NOT fox/hound mode, and I've found myself
> switching a LOT back and forth.
>
>
>
> Maybe an option to enable an "expert" mode to then display some of these
> controls in an easy to use location?
>
>
>
> 73 de KM8V
>
>
>
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