Grant, as F/H specifically requires you to reply to a Fox CQ above 1000 hz, and since the decoder decodes the entire passband based on the base frequency set, you would not need any 'waterfall history' to determine where to Tx your reply.
Maybe I'm missing the point. That said, my reply was specifically to Dennis who was saying he would forget to switch back to normal FT8 mode after using one of the 'special' modes. Neil, KN3ILZ On 10/10/2021 8:49 PM, Grant Willis wrote:
Neil, I wish to take a moment please to outline what I see is the problem with the configuration options as a solution that everyone keeps answering with when this comes up. I dont think the case why the configuration mode changes annoy many has ever been clearly articulated. If I am tuning around the band and see some FT8, dial my receiver onto it and see what is happening. If I see they are running in F/H mode - then if I use configurations to change to that mode, I need to often a) add a frequency to the config, b) reselect the frequency I was just on and c) loose the waterfall history I would want to use to pick where to drop my transmitter to start calling. In quick fire DX Chasing that is all lost time and multiplication of effort that to be frank is a PITA. The reason people keep asking for a button to switch to hound mode and back on the main screen is so they can do what people should more naturally be doing - that is spin the dial of their radio, look at what's on the band, and then pick the right mode to work what they hear */_quickly and efficiently_/*. Sure the work arounds work - but they are clunky and kludgy to a DX operator. The alternative solutions might be - preserve the frequency/band/sub-frequency settings across a configuration settings change and get the waterfall not to be reset when you swap configurations. I believe that would be much more work for the programming team than having a simple tick switch linked to hound mode on / off on the main page. Having said that, the developers have made it clear they are not interested - so yes it is also a lost cause. Oh and to those that say "grab the source and roll your own" - not everyone can or has the time to write software and roll their own. Regards, Grant VK5GR On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 11:55 AM Neil Zampella via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: In your case I would suggest create a separate CONFIGURATION for each mode you're using. You can setup one for regular use, then one for other special modes such as the NA VHF contest, Field Day, Fox & Hound, etc. All you need to do is switch over to the mode you're going to use by selecting the configuration. I've been using this feature since it was first created. Neil, KN3ILZ On 10/10/2021 6:12 PM, Dennis Younker NE6I wrote:Put me down for also wishing to have that on the main screen. Or more accurately in my case, having a check box or link on the main screen that is linked to Special Operating Activity. Yes, handy to quickly go to and from F/H mode but also convenient at the start and end of one of the contests listed on the Advanced tab. I have, for example, operated an NA VHF Contest over a weekend and then forgot to uncheck the box after the contest. And then been bitten for a moment later in the week when operating normal FT8 or MSK. I am not a programmer and not interested in becoming one (again). It’s great that the source code is available for anyone to modify to their heart’s content but I’m not interested in doing that. I did a lot of programming and compiling of code several decades ago, and spent MANY an all nighter doing that. That ship has now sailed for me, and I’m not interested in getting on board again. I am hugely appreciative of K1JT and the entire WSJT-X team for their work. I for one know how much time and effort goes into this. It’s truly a labor of love. --Dennis NE6I *From:* Jeff Stillinger via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> *Sent:* Sunday, October 10, 2021 9:53 AM *To:* WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> *Cc:* Jeff Stillinger <kb6...@zohomail.com> <mailto:kb6...@zohomail.com> *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request: Hound Mode Not exactly a secret. For building on Microsoft virus, the sdk is located here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/jtsdk/ <https://sourceforge.net/projects/jtsdk/> It is my understanding that it's going through some updates, but what is posted should work. Last time I played with it was back in version 1.7. I haven't kept up with that platform since I do everything on Linux. On 10/10/21 10:43 AM, Jon Anhold wrote: Hi Jeff, Yes, I agree - I am a contributor to some other open source projects. Thanks for your helpful suggestion. I've given that some thought, but at least the last time I looked the build process / toolkit for building WSJT-X on Windows is like top secret or something, and I haven't spent any time recently trying to uncover it or get it to build. Also, unfortunately, it doesn't seem that the authors are very open to pull requests, so I make feature suggestions here. Thanks & 73 de KM8V Jon On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:37 AM Jeff Stillinger via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: How about an alternative to your prediction. WSJT-X is open source. You have complete access to the source code, and one of the wonderful conveniences of the package is the ability to customize the software to a specific style of station operations. That is the fancy and PC way to say, if you want a button somewhere specific, then you are free to put it there. There are no licensing restrictions, other than your modification would stay local to your station. All of the compilers and libraries are also free and open source. Have at it and let us know about your progress. On 10/9/21 9:05 PM, Jon Anhold via wsjt-devel wrote: I know that this is going to get ignored, or I'm going to be told to "make a configuration" to "solve" this problem, but I'll again put in a vote to have a Hound mode checkbox on the main screen to switch in and out of that mode. There are several DXPeditions right now, some running Fox/Hound mode, others running multi-stream NOT fox/hound mode, and I've found myself switching a LOT back and forth. Maybe an option to enable an "expert" mode to then display some of these controls in an easy to use location? 73 de KM8V_______________________________________________ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel>
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