Thanks Peter. I am familiar with this limitation.

I am not actually adding more devices so at this time, it is just a matter of 
discovering that the 3.0 port actually provides “as expected” connectivity. And 
having solved the Tx dropout issue is a pleasing outcome.

To summarize again:

CAT Control never failed.

Rx audio never stopped.

It was only Tx audio from USB Codec which flicked offline at random times.

This is no longer the case.

 

Alan McDonald

Worimi Country

 

From: Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2022 4:38 PM
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Peter Sumner <vk8...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FW: 2.6.0 RC and HamRadioDeluxe Radio issue

 

Hello Alan,

 there is one thing you should keep in mind before making your final decision, 
there are limits on the number of endpoint devices for both USB2 and USB3 and 
these total-up on a per controller bassis, you can see each USB Controller in 
Windows Device manager. These endpoints include the serial ports, sound 
devices, mice and keyboard we all seem to accumulate.

 

In general while USB 3 is considered to be the fast and logical option for most 
things, it can have far fewer endpoint devices connected than its slower USB 2 
cousin.  If you google the term "Not Enough USB Controller Resources" you will 
start to understand what the limits are and ways to check your system.

 

I see this USB problem regularly when my Elad FMDUO is connected to its own 
mini desktop PC and that's just three USB leads, as the DUO has a tonne of 
internal endpoints that are presented to Windows so I have distribute the leads 
across USB2 at the rear, USB2 on the front and USB3 to get everything to play.

 

Wish you the best of luck with your setup,

regards,

Peter, vk5pj

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 3:43 PM Alan McDonald via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > 
wrote:

OK it's been 2d since my last setup alteration and I have not experienced any 
TX dropout. 

I moved my radio to another USB port type 3.0. (as opposed to a non 3.0 speed 
type)
I can confirm at least on my setup, that there is no longer an issue with 
dropping Tx audio. The HamRadioDeluxe radio + USB Codecs are now solid and Tx 
does not drop out.


I have even reinstated the sleep to “enabled” on all devices and still there 
are no dropouts.


So, in my experience, this is not something to do with ports "sleeping", it's 
all to do with USB port speed. I suspect that having CAT + 2way Audio feeds + 
switching, on one port, is more demanding than a normal USB can handle.

 

It’s nice to be able to leave the HamRadioDeulxe rig control ON and open and 
close WSJT-X without having to shut things down and start them up again.

 

Thanks for your patients and assistance. This was a rather long series of 
changes and testing periods in all this. But it’s a nice feeling to have it 
sorted.

 

Alan McDonald

Worimi Country

 

From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2022 4:02 PM
To: Alan McDonald via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Cc: Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdblac...@yahoo.com> >
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FW: 2.6.0 RC and HamRadioDeluxe Radio issue

 

On my Windows 11 desktop it has it.

 



 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 04:57:06 PM CST, Alan McDonald via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > 
wrote: 

 

 

I'm not using a laptop with a battery. These settings, as you describe, are not 
available on a mains power PC

Alan McDonald
Worimi Country
0413 657 427

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Williams via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2022 12:12 AM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Cc: Glenn Williams <a...@alumni.caltech.edu <mailto:a...@alumni.caltech.edu> >
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FW: 2.6.0 RC and HamRadioDeluxe Radio issue

I thought I remembered something about USB ports.

I googled:  "windows 10 USB ports randomly stop working"

and got

"Go to Power Options > Change Plan Settings > Change advanced power settings. 
Find USB Settings, then drill down to USB selective suspend setting. Disable 
the options next to On battery and Plugged in, then click Apply. You must then 
restart your PC to stop it from turning off the USB ports unnecessarily."

---Glenn, AF8C

On 11/22/2022 1:27 AM, Alan McDonald via wsjt-devel wrote:
> OK so I’ve been running standard V2.5.4, IC-7300 on COM6
> 
> I have made further observations.
> 
> I have all the devices I can find set to not sleep.
> 
> After leaving WSJT-X running for a while, I often come back to find it 
> won’t transmit. It is still decoding fine.
> 
> (as reported before using the HamRadioDeluxe radio)
> 
> I tried quite a few things to make it come back to Txing other than 
> exit/restart cycling.
> 
> I have found that going to Settings|Audio|Output and selecting 
> something other than (3-USB etc) e.g.
> 
> Then re-selecting 3_USB
> 
> My tx comes back into operation.
> 
> I also tried moving my USB cable over to another port on the PC but 
> this makes no difference other than changin from say 2-USB to 3-USB etc.
> 
> Alan McDonald
> 
> Worimi Country
> 

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