"Digital -- we need need the "real" transmit frequency -- i.e. the tone offset."
When I spot an FT8 station with manual entry to DXSummit.fi I always enter the suppressed carrier frequency. If you check there you will see that most spotters do the same. When I use DXKeeper to make a spot it uses dial+DF because that is what JTAlert passes to DXK. I always add the RX suppressed carrier frequency in the notes so the spot is useful. (For FSK RTTY the spotted frequency should be the Mark frequency. RTTY spotting and tuning RTTY spots is made much harder than it need be because some stations use FSK and others use AFSK. The spots are not compatible). 73, Andy, k3wyc ________________________________ From: Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 9:42 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Cc: Andy Durbin <a.dur...@msn.com> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] ALL.TXT RX freq is not RX DIAL freq SSB may be suppressed carrier but is NOT MFSK. CW, Phone, and Digital are 3 separate modes. CW -- we want carrier because we set our own tone offset. You still have to look at where they have their tone offset. Phone -- suppressed carrier -- tone offset does not matter at all so your comparison between voices is meaningless. Digital -- we need need the "real" transmit frequency -- i.e. the tone offset. If you have a rig with 2400Hz bandpass and you see 14.074 but the are at 2800Hz you will never hear them. But if they are spotted at 14.076800 you should be able to figure out you can hear them at 14.076. We've been reporting the tone offset in WSJT-X for years and this is the 1st complaint anybody's made. All the PSK, RTTY, and other digital modes also report the offset and you have to figure out where to set your frequency to hear them. e.g. K8R is being spotted on 14.091750 -- let's see now...maybe 14.091 might work? e.g. I see you (N0AN) on 50261.47 -- I'll bet 50261.0 will work to hear you. You may be set on 50260 or even 50259 and it doesn't matter to me at all. Let's say you were 1KHz higher 50262.47 -- 50262 would let me hear you. Not that hard.... Mike W9MDB
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