I'm also happy to help this time as well, though likely won't be able to
afford the expense or time of going to London. :( Let me know.

Cheers,

Charley



On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Bret Pettichord <[email protected]>wrote:

> 1. We will have events in both London and Austin. I plan to participate in
> both.
>
> 2. I've talked to several local folks about it and with that and Alister's
> support, I think we will make a really great event in Austin. More details
> on that soon.
>
> 3. I would like to hear from the Watir Team in Europe regarding what you
> would like to see happen in London. Charley and Alister played key roles in
> the San Francisco Watir Day and we'd need similar volunteers this time.
>
> Bret
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Alister Scott <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Simon: what's the reasoning behind a single track conference?
>> SeConf this year was multi track (although the second track schedule
>> was only organized at the conference), so didn't this work?
>> Won't there be too much variety to keep everyone interested in a single
>> track?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alister Scott
>> Brisbane, Australia
>>
>> On 23/10/2011, at 11:48 AM, Simon Stewart <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Saying that I'd rather not have a track dedicated to a particular
>> > technology is not the same thing as saying that I don't want anything
>> > to do with that technology. Since SeConf will be a single track
>> > conference, the concept of a track dedicated to _anything_ makes no
>> > sense. As I said before: watir talks can certainly be submitted for
>> > the conference.
>> >
>> > Simon
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Alister Scott <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> I enjoyed Watir Day immensely this year, Selenium Conference less so.
>> It was
>> >> something about the size/intimacy of Watir Day that made it special.
>> >>
>> >> I remember hearing lots of discussion about how Watir could be more
>> >> integrated into SeConf next year at this year's conference. It seems
>> however
>> >> that this theme has been lost since then, as when Bret suggested a
>> Watir
>> >> track on the SeConf group it was quickly dismissed by Simon Stewart
>> from
>> >> Google:
>> >>
>> >>> "I'd rather avoid having tracks dedicated to a specific API, but we
>> can
>> >>> certainly accept watir talks into the main event."
>> >>
>> >> So, it made me think, there's an inherent risk of not having anything
>> Watir
>> >> related on the agenda considering how Selenium heavy the people
>> deciding who
>> >> the speakers will be (Jason Huggins et al), and from recollection there
>> were
>> >> no watir talks accepted for the main conference this year.
>> >>
>> >> The benefit of the Selenium Conference 2012 is obviously it is in
>> London,
>> >> which is considerably closer to a lot of the key team (Zeljko, Jarmo,
>> Jari
>> >> etc.)
>> >>
>> >> But...
>> >>
>> >> I attended AWTA is 2009, and it was fantastic. Like Watir Day, but less
>> >> Watir specific. Plus I really enjoyed visiting Austin (better climate
>> than
>> >> London!)
>> >>
>> >> I've had some quick discussions with Bret about an AWTA like event
>> early
>> >> next year. Bret is keen to showcase Watirmark: Convio's Watir
>> framework.
>> >> Here's some of my ideas:
>> >>
>> >> Open source test automation workshop - not Watir specific - but
>> primarily
>> >> focused on Watir/WebDriver
>> >> Specification by Example a key theme
>> >> ~ 100 attendees
>> >> Fairly cheap entry
>> >> In Austin
>> >> In Feb-March 2012
>> >> Sponsors similar to Watir Day
>> >> Interesting varied workshop with hands on demos, presentations,
>> challenges
>> >> and competitions
>> >>
>> >> I am more than happy to help with organization: promotion, ticketing,
>> >> website, timeslots, speakers etc.
>> >>
>> >> The problem I see is if the key Watir folk (Jarmo, Jari, Zeljko) are
>> unable
>> >> to attend due to distance/cost.
>> >>
>> >> Also, SXSW (South by SouthWest) in on March 9-18, so we'd want to avoid
>> that
>> >> period as it would be almost impossible to get hotels etc. I imagine.
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Alister
>> >>
>> >> Alister Scott
>> >> Brisbane, Australia
>> >> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>> >> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>> >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>> >>
>> >> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate
>> more and
>> >> more. The other is to desire less." ~ G. K. Chesterton
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Bret Pettichord <[email protected]
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It was really great to see so many of you in San Francisco this year.
>> I
>> >>> think we need to meet again next year.
>> >>> We could meet with the Selenium team again, but this time in London,
>> or we
>> >>> could meet here in Austin. Or we could meet some where else.
>> >>> What do you think?
>> >>> Bret
>> >>>
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>> >>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>> >>>
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