I am using Google+ to include more people in the planning of this
conference. Please read and comment on the announcement on my wall.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/114361487365233459418

Hugh is checking into dates at the Northcross Conference Center.

Bret

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Bret Pettichord <[email protected]>wrote:

> Austin has several brewpubs and other places to drink great beers. I'm sure
> Zeljko won't wait till Sunday to partake.
>
> Public transportation, however, is limited. Our trains don't run on
> weekends, although we do have buses. We also have lots of great bike trails.
>
> Bret
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Tiffany Fodor <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hello! ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> The format looks great to me, although I do like Zeljko’s idea of public
>> transportation and beer.  ;-)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I’d be happy to organize the charity workshops.  I’ll start by:****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> **1.       **Researching local charities in Austin and London (feel free
>> to point out any favorites you may have), ****
>>
>> **2.       **Brainstorming on workshop topics (again, feel free to chime
>> in if you have ideas)****
>>
>> **3.       **Emailing Marty Haught (the guy behind the Rocky Mountain
>> Ruby conference) to see if he has any advice on setting them up****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Take care!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -Tiffany****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Bret Pettichord [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 8:25 PM
>>
>> *To:* Watir development
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wtr-development] 2012 Watir Day****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Format for Austin event****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thursday: Pre-conference Workshops****
>>
>> Friday Morning: General Assembly - Single Track****
>>
>> Friday Afternoon: Working Groups - Open Space****
>>
>> Saturday Morning: General Assembly - Single Track****
>>
>> Saturday Afternoon: Working Groups - Open Space****
>>
>> Sunday Morning: Final Assembly****
>>
>> Sunday Afternoon: Coffeshops and Biking****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> What do you think?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Bret Pettichord <[email protected]>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Tiffany, could you please organize the pre-conference training track for
>> the Austin Watir and Selenium event? ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Bret****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Tiffany Fodor <[email protected]>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Hi all!****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I’m currently planning on attending both events and I’m happy to help with
>> the either/both in any way I can.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Personally, I liked the format at SeConf last year because of the separate
>> tracks – I especially enjoyed Watir Day and Bret’s awesome keynote.  It’s
>> likely because there were fewer attendees, but Watir Day felt friendlier and
>> more interactive than the rest of the conference.  The Selenium-specific
>> parts were so crowded that I bailed out of a lot of them.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I attended the Rocky Mountain Ruby Conference here in Boulder a couple of
>> months ago.  They had separate pre-conference training tracks (at an extra
>> cost, but the money went to local charities) that were really useful and
>> heavily attended.  http://rockymtnruby.com/charity_workshop  Something
>> like this might be a great way to help newbies learn about Watir or help
>> people who know the basics get better at advanced skills (frameworks,
>> reporting, etc.).****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing everyone!****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> -Tiffany****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* Bret Pettichord [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:28 AM
>> *To:* Watir development
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wtr-development] 2012 Watir Day****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> 1. We will have events in both London and Austin. I plan to participate in
>> both.****
>>
>> 2. I've talked to several local folks about it and with that and Alister's
>> support, I think we will make a really great event in Austin. More details
>> on that soon.****
>>
>> 3. I would like to hear from the Watir Team in Europe regarding what you
>> would like to see happen in London. Charley and Alister played key roles in
>> the San Francisco Watir Day and we'd need similar volunteers this time.**
>> **
>>
>> Bret****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Alister Scott <[email protected]>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Simon: what's the reasoning behind a single track conference?
>> SeConf this year was multi track (although the second track schedule
>> was only organized at the conference), so didn't this work?
>> Won't there be too much variety to keep everyone interested in a single
>> track?****
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alister Scott
>> Brisbane, Australia****
>>
>> On 23/10/2011, at 11:48 AM, Simon Stewart <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Saying that I'd rather not have a track dedicated to a particular
>> > technology is not the same thing as saying that I don't want anything
>> > to do with that technology. Since SeConf will be a single track
>> > conference, the concept of a track dedicated to _anything_ makes no
>> > sense. As I said before: watir talks can certainly be submitted for
>> > the conference.
>> >
>> > Simon
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Alister Scott <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> I enjoyed Watir Day immensely this year, Selenium Conference less so.
>> It was
>> >> something about the size/intimacy of Watir Day that made it special.
>> >>
>> >> I remember hearing lots of discussion about how Watir could be more
>> >> integrated into SeConf next year at this year's conference. It seems
>> however
>> >> that this theme has been lost since then, as when Bret suggested a
>> Watir
>> >> track on the SeConf group it was quickly dismissed by Simon Stewart
>> from
>> >> Google:
>> >>
>> >>> "I'd rather avoid having tracks dedicated to a specific API, but we
>> can
>> >>> certainly accept watir talks into the main event."
>> >>
>> >> So, it made me think, there's an inherent risk of not having anything
>> Watir
>> >> related on the agenda considering how Selenium heavy the people
>> deciding who
>> >> the speakers will be (Jason Huggins et al), and from recollection there
>> were
>> >> no watir talks accepted for the main conference this year.
>> >>
>> >> The benefit of the Selenium Conference 2012 is obviously it is in
>> London,
>> >> which is considerably closer to a lot of the key team (Zeljko, Jarmo,
>> Jari
>> >> etc.)
>> >>
>> >> But...
>> >>
>> >> I attended AWTA is 2009, and it was fantastic. Like Watir Day, but less
>> >> Watir specific. Plus I really enjoyed visiting Austin (better climate
>> than
>> >> London!)
>> >>
>> >> I've had some quick discussions with Bret about an AWTA like event
>> early
>> >> next year. Bret is keen to showcase Watirmark: Convio's Watir
>> framework.
>> >> Here's some of my ideas:
>> >>
>> >> Open source test automation workshop - not Watir specific - but
>> primarily
>> >> focused on Watir/WebDriver
>> >> Specification by Example a key theme
>> >> ~ 100 attendees
>> >> Fairly cheap entry
>> >> In Austin
>> >> In Feb-March 2012
>> >> Sponsors similar to Watir Day
>> >> Interesting varied workshop with hands on demos, presentations,
>> challenges
>> >> and competitions
>> >>
>> >> I am more than happy to help with organization: promotion, ticketing,
>> >> website, timeslots, speakers etc.
>> >>
>> >> The problem I see is if the key Watir folk (Jarmo, Jari, Zeljko) are
>> unable
>> >> to attend due to distance/cost.
>> >>
>> >> Also, SXSW (South by SouthWest) in on March 9-18, so we'd want to avoid
>> that
>> >> period as it would be almost impossible to get hotels etc. I imagine.
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Alister
>> >>
>> >> Alister Scott
>> >> Brisbane, Australia
>> >> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>> >> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>> >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>> >>
>> >> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate
>> more and
>> >> more. The other is to desire less." ~ G. K. Chesterton
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Bret Pettichord <[email protected]
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It was really great to see so many of you in San Francisco this year.
>> I
>> >>> think we need to meet again next year.
>> >>> We could meet with the Selenium team again, but this time in London,
>> or we
>> >>> could meet here in Austin. Or we could meet some where else.
>> >>> What do you think?
>> >>> Bret
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Bret Pettichord
>> >>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>> >>>
>> >>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>> >>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>> >>>
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>>
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>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
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>> Bret Pettichord
>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>>
>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord****
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>>
>> ** **
>>
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>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>>
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>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord****
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> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
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