Format sounds great.

Cheers,

Alister Scott
Brisbane, Australia
Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
Blog: http://watirmelon.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott

"There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more and
more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*


On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Bret Pettichord <[email protected]>wrote:

> Format for Austin event
>
> Thursday: Pre-conference Workshops
> Friday Morning: General Assembly - Single Track
> Friday Afternoon: Working Groups - Open Space
> Saturday Morning: General Assembly - Single Track
> Saturday Afternoon: Working Groups - Open Space
> Sunday Morning: Final Assembly
> Sunday Afternoon: Coffeshops and Biking
>
> What do you think?
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Bret Pettichord <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Tiffany, could you please organize the pre-conference training track for
>> the Austin Watir and Selenium event?
>>
>> Bret
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Tiffany Fodor <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all!****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I’m currently planning on attending both events and I’m happy to help
>>> with the either/both in any way I can.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Personally, I liked the format at SeConf last year because of the
>>> separate tracks – I especially enjoyed Watir Day and Bret’s awesome
>>> keynote.  It’s likely because there were fewer attendees, but Watir Day felt
>>> friendlier and more interactive than the rest of the conference.  The
>>> Selenium-specific parts were so crowded that I bailed out of a lot of them.
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I attended the Rocky Mountain Ruby Conference here in Boulder a couple of
>>> months ago.  They had separate pre-conference training tracks (at an extra
>>> cost, but the money went to local charities) that were really useful and
>>> heavily attended.  http://rockymtnruby.com/charity_workshop  Something
>>> like this might be a great way to help newbies learn about Watir or help
>>> people who know the basics get better at advanced skills (frameworks,
>>> reporting, etc.).****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Looking forward to seeing everyone!****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> -Tiffany****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Bret Pettichord [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:28 AM
>>> *To:* Watir development
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Wtr-development] 2012 Watir Day****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> 1. We will have events in both London and Austin. I plan to participate
>>> in both.****
>>>
>>> 2. I've talked to several local folks about it and with that and
>>> Alister's support, I think we will make a really great event in Austin. More
>>> details on that soon.****
>>>
>>> 3. I would like to hear from the Watir Team in Europe regarding what you
>>> would like to see happen in London. Charley and Alister played key roles in
>>> the San Francisco Watir Day and we'd need similar volunteers this time.*
>>> ***
>>>
>>> Bret****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Alister Scott <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:****
>>>
>>> Simon: what's the reasoning behind a single track conference?
>>> SeConf this year was multi track (although the second track schedule
>>> was only organized at the conference), so didn't this work?
>>> Won't there be too much variety to keep everyone interested in a single
>>> track?****
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Alister Scott
>>> Brisbane, Australia****
>>>
>>> On 23/10/2011, at 11:48 AM, Simon Stewart <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Saying that I'd rather not have a track dedicated to a particular
>>> > technology is not the same thing as saying that I don't want anything
>>> > to do with that technology. Since SeConf will be a single track
>>> > conference, the concept of a track dedicated to _anything_ makes no
>>> > sense. As I said before: watir talks can certainly be submitted for
>>> > the conference.
>>> >
>>> > Simon
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Alister Scott <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> I enjoyed Watir Day immensely this year, Selenium Conference less so.
>>> It was
>>> >> something about the size/intimacy of Watir Day that made it special.
>>> >>
>>> >> I remember hearing lots of discussion about how Watir could be more
>>> >> integrated into SeConf next year at this year's conference. It seems
>>> however
>>> >> that this theme has been lost since then, as when Bret suggested a
>>> Watir
>>> >> track on the SeConf group it was quickly dismissed by Simon Stewart
>>> from
>>> >> Google:
>>> >>
>>> >>> "I'd rather avoid having tracks dedicated to a specific API, but we
>>> can
>>> >>> certainly accept watir talks into the main event."
>>> >>
>>> >> So, it made me think, there's an inherent risk of not having anything
>>> Watir
>>> >> related on the agenda considering how Selenium heavy the people
>>> deciding who
>>> >> the speakers will be (Jason Huggins et al), and from recollection
>>> there were
>>> >> no watir talks accepted for the main conference this year.
>>> >>
>>> >> The benefit of the Selenium Conference 2012 is obviously it is in
>>> London,
>>> >> which is considerably closer to a lot of the key team (Zeljko, Jarmo,
>>> Jari
>>> >> etc.)
>>> >>
>>> >> But...
>>> >>
>>> >> I attended AWTA is 2009, and it was fantastic. Like Watir Day, but
>>> less
>>> >> Watir specific. Plus I really enjoyed visiting Austin (better climate
>>> than
>>> >> London!)
>>> >>
>>> >> I've had some quick discussions with Bret about an AWTA like event
>>> early
>>> >> next year. Bret is keen to showcase Watirmark: Convio's Watir
>>> framework.
>>> >> Here's some of my ideas:
>>> >>
>>> >> Open source test automation workshop - not Watir specific - but
>>> primarily
>>> >> focused on Watir/WebDriver
>>> >> Specification by Example a key theme
>>> >> ~ 100 attendees
>>> >> Fairly cheap entry
>>> >> In Austin
>>> >> In Feb-March 2012
>>> >> Sponsors similar to Watir Day
>>> >> Interesting varied workshop with hands on demos, presentations,
>>> challenges
>>> >> and competitions
>>> >>
>>> >> I am more than happy to help with organization: promotion, ticketing,
>>> >> website, timeslots, speakers etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> The problem I see is if the key Watir folk (Jarmo, Jari, Zeljko) are
>>> unable
>>> >> to attend due to distance/cost.
>>> >>
>>> >> Also, SXSW (South by SouthWest) in on March 9-18, so we'd want to
>>> avoid that
>>> >> period as it would be almost impossible to get hotels etc. I imagine.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thoughts?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> Alister
>>> >>
>>> >> Alister Scott
>>> >> Brisbane, Australia
>>> >> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>>> >> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>>> >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>>> >>
>>> >> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate
>>> more and
>>> >> more. The other is to desire less." ~ G. K. Chesterton
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Bret Pettichord <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It was really great to see so many of you in San Francisco this year.
>>> I
>>> >>> think we need to meet again next year.
>>> >>> We could meet with the Selenium team again, but this time in London,
>>> or we
>>> >>> could meet here in Austin. Or we could meet some where else.
>>> >>> What do you think?
>>> >>> Bret
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Bret Pettichord
>>> >>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>>> >>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
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>>>
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>>
>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>>
>>
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>
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