There's nothing to transition to!   I cannot believe that XOrg thinks that 
nobody needs to do this, it's mind boggling to me.  It's going to be a big 
problem at our lab.  

> On May 18, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Rockers, Elijah D. 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello again experts,
> 
> Being that XQ is no longer going to support IGLX, this could interfere 
> with some current application's functionality in our lab. Should I 
> notify the application developers that they should consider looking to 
> transition away from GLX? Or is this kind of ssh X forwarding to the mac 
> not even possible without GLX (are there alternatives to GLX they could 
> consider?)
> 
> Apologies, even as a computer nerd, the complexity of graphics 
> software/hardware remains somewhat of a mystery to me, so I'm not 100% 
> sure I'm even asking the right questions here..
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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>>    1. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia)
>>    2. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Richard Cook)
>>    3. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia)
>>    4. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Rich Cook)
>>    5. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (James Gunning)
>>    6. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (César)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 21:59:06 -0700
>> From: Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]>
>> To: César <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> There was one change, but it didn't completely address the problem.
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 21:53, César <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jeremy, was the OpenGL context clipping bug addressed in 2.7.9, or is it 
>>> still pending? (I sent you a minimal working example showing the bug some 
>>> time ago)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> César
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> El miércoles, 18 de mayo de 2016, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia 
>>> <[email protected]> escribió:
>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of 
>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security 
>>> reasons.
>>> 
>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with IGLX 
>>> (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a regression in 
>>> the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and discouraged).
>>> 
>>> --Jeremy
>>> 
>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 was 
>>>> just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered 
>>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff.
>>>> 
>>>>  And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing 
>>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt to 
>>>> stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't had 
>>>> any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that Inkscape is 
>>>> still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially installed it 
>>>> with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken...
>>>> 
>>>> Many Thanks!
>>>> Christopher
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of the 
>>>> conversation...
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Christopher,
>>>> 
>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were 
>>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the 
>>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ 
>>>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed 
>>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on 
>>>> that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend 
>>>> from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in 
>>>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck!
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Magda.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I check 
>>>> for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8.
>>>> 
>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I 
>>>> just install it over the previous version?
>>>> 
>>>>  And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it 
>>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a 
>>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application.
>>>> 
>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15"
>>>> OSX 10.8.5
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Christopher
>>>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:18:27 -0700
>> From: Richard Cook <[email protected]>
>> To: Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>> I don't know what IGLX is, but GLX did not seem to work for me at all when I 
>> tried it in 2.7.9.  Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a remote linux 
>> box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use.  But the good news it 
>> that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made my problems with 2.7.9 go 
>> away.
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of 
>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security 
>>> reasons.
>>> 
>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with IGLX 
>>> (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a regression in 
>>> the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and discouraged).
>>> 
>>> --Jeremy
>>> 
>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 was 
>>>> just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered 
>>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff.
>>>> 
>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing 
>>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt to 
>>>> stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't had 
>>>> any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that Inkscape is 
>>>> still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially installed it 
>>>> with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken...
>>>> 
>>>> Many Thanks!
>>>> Christopher
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of the 
>>>> conversation...
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Christopher,
>>>> 
>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were 
>>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the 
>>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ 
>>>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed 
>>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on 
>>>> that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend 
>>>> from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in 
>>>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck!
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Magda.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I check 
>>>> for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8.
>>>> 
>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I 
>>>> just install it over the previous version?
>>>> 
>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it 
>>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a 
>>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application.
>>>> 
>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15"
>>>> OSX 10.8.5
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Christopher
>>>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:38:13 -0700
>> From: Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]>
>> To: Richard Cook <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 22:18, Richard Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know what IGLX is, but GLX did not seem to work for me at all when 
>>> I tried it in 2.7.9.  Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a remote 
>>> linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use.
>> That is IGLX.
>> 
>>>  But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made my 
>>> problems with 2.7.9 go away.
>>> 
>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of 
>>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security 
>>>> reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with IGLX 
>>>> (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a regression in 
>>>> the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and discouraged).
>>>> 
>>>> --Jeremy
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 was 
>>>>> just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered 
>>>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing 
>>>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt 
>>>>> to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't 
>>>>> had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that Inkscape 
>>>>> is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially 
>>>>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many Thanks!
>>>>> Christopher
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of the 
>>>>> conversation...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Christopher,
>>>>> 
>>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were 
>>>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the 
>>>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. 
>>>>> XQ 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed 
>>>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on 
>>>>> that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly 
>>>>> recommend from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have 
>>>>> nothing in particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. 
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Magda.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I 
>>>>> check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I 
>>>>> just install it over the previous version?
>>>>> 
>>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it 
>>>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a 
>>>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15"
>>>>> OSX 10.8.5
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Christopher
>>>>> 
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:42:44 -0700
>> From: Rich Cook <[email protected]>
>> To: Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Hmm, what is going to replace IGLX?   How are people going to display OpenGL 
>> graphics over remote X11 if not by GLX?  Sorry if this is offtopic.
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 22:18, Richard Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know what IGLX is, but GLX did not seem to work for me at all when 
>>>> I tried it in 2.7.9.  Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a remote 
>>>> linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use.
>>> That is IGLX.
>>> 
>>>> But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made my 
>>>> problems with 2.7.9 go away.
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of 
>>>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security 
>>>>> reasons.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with IGLX 
>>>>> (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a regression 
>>>>> in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and 
>>>>> discouraged).
>>>>> 
>>>>> --Jeremy
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 was 
>>>>>> just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered 
>>>>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing 
>>>>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt 
>>>>>> to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't 
>>>>>> had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that Inkscape 
>>>>>> is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially 
>>>>>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many Thanks!
>>>>>> Christopher
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of 
>>>>>> the conversation...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Christopher,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were 
>>>>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the 
>>>>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. 
>>>>>> XQ 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed 
>>>>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working 
>>>>>> on that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly 
>>>>>> recommend from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have 
>>>>>> nothing in particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. 
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Magda.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I 
>>>>>> check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I 
>>>>>> just install it over the previous version?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it 
>>>>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a 
>>>>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15"
>>>>>> OSX 10.8.5
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Christopher
>>>>>> 
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 15:56:13 +1000
>> From: James Gunning <[email protected]>
>> To: Rich Cook <[email protected]>,       Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia
>>      <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> 
>> Hi Rich, Jeremy, all,
>>                 Yes, I think a lot of us care about this a deal.
>> Any news welcome.
>> James.
>> 
>> 
>> Rich Cook wrote:
>>> Hmm, what is going to replace IGLX?   How are people going to display 
>>> OpenGL graphics over remote X11 if not by GLX?  Sorry if this is offtopic.
>>> 
>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 22:18, Richard Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know what IGLX is, but GLX did not seem to work for me at all 
>>>>> when I tried it in 2.7.9.  Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a 
>>>>> remote linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use.
>>>> That is IGLX.
>>>> 
>>>>> But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made 
>>>>> my problems with 2.7.9 go away.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of 
>>>>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security 
>>>>>> reasons.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with 
>>>>>> IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a 
>>>>>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default 
>>>>>> and discouraged).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Jeremy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 
>>>>>>> was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I 
>>>>>>> wondered about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing 
>>>>>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt 
>>>>>>> to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't 
>>>>>>> had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that 
>>>>>>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I 
>>>>>>> initially installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't 
>>>>>>> broken...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Many Thanks!
>>>>>>> Christopher
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of 
>>>>>>> the conversation...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Christopher,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were 
>>>>>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the 
>>>>>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. 
>>>>>>> XQ 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed 
>>>>>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working 
>>>>>>> on that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly 
>>>>>>> recommend from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you 
>>>>>>> have nothing in particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a 
>>>>>>> bit. Good luck!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Magda.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I 
>>>>>>> check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 
>>>>>>> 2.7.8.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I 
>>>>>>> just install it over the previous version?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it 
>>>>>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a 
>>>>>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15"
>>>>>>> OSX 10.8.5
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Christopher
>>>>>>> 
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 07:59:37 +0200
>> From: César <[email protected]>
>> To: Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry
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>> Ok, thanks a lot, I look forward to the final fix (it's not a critical bug,
>> but it does make my apps look like if they were broken -they run fine, but
>> their UI looks broken)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> César
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> El miércoles, 18 de mayo de 2016, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <
>> [email protected]> escribió:
>> 
>>> There was one change, but it didn't completely address the problem.
>>> 
>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 21:53, César <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Jeremy, was the OpenGL context clipping bug addressed in 2.7.9, or is it
>>> still pending? (I sent you a minimal working example showing the bug some
>>> time ago)
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> César
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> El miércoles, 18 de mayo de 2016, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <
>>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> escribió:
>>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of
>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security
>>> reasons.
>>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with
>>> IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a
>>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and
>>> discouraged).
>>>> --Jeremy
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick <[email protected]
>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9
>>> was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered
>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff.
>>>>>  And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade.
>>> Nothing prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an
>>> attempt to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I
>>> haven't had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that
>>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially
>>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken...
>>>>> Many Thanks!
>>>>> Christopher
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou <
>>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of
>>> the conversation...
>>>>> Hi Christopher,
>>>>> 
>>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were
>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the
>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ
>>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed forwarding
>>> over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on that fix
>>> this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend from my
>>> personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in
>>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck!
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Magda.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick <
>>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I
>>> check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8.
>>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I
>>> just install it over the previous version?
>>>>>  And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is
>>> it common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a
>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application.
>>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15"
>>>>> OSX 10.8.5
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Christopher
>>>>> 
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