Hi Ambrose, Thanks a lot for letting us know. That is very helpful. I would encourage everyone to send to the x.org mailing list so that we see if they could help us find the support we need to continue our work. I have already emailed them. Let's see how it goes. Thanks again!
Best, Magda. On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Ambrose LI <[email protected]> wrote: > For anyone who need this to continue working: > > I mentioned this thread on Twitter and it got picked up by the X.org > Foundation. They are requesting that anyone who need IGLX to work to send > email to the x.org mailing lists to let them know what you need. They > have no idea that people don't even know IGLX has been deprecated, let > alone people are actually still depending on it for work. > > https://mobile.twitter.com/XOrgFoundation/status/733516667737628674 > > 2016-05-25 18:59 GMT-04:00 MacQueen, Don <[email protected]>: > >> For what it's worth, see, >> >> https://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Security/Advisory-2014-12-09/ >> >> -- >> Don MacQueen >> Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory >> 7000 East Ave., L-627 >> Livermore, CA 94550 >> 925-423-1062 >> >> >> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of >> Rich Cook <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 4:43 PM >> To: Magda Tsintou <[email protected]> >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Rockers, >> Elijah D." <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry >> >> There will be a tsunami of interest in this if IGLX goes away. This is >> a legitimate user need. >> -- Rich >> >> On May 18, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Magda Tsintou <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Yes indeed this will be a serious problem in my lab too. We all rely on >> that to work on our research projects and I think that most neuroimaging >> labs do the same and I am sure that there are tons of other applications I >> can not even think of right now. I really hope that a solution for this >> will come up so that there will be no problems. When I notified my lab they >> did not even know how to guide me on this. At least there should be some >> sort of awareness in the labs about that issue so that not everyone needs >> to figure it out alone. >> >> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Rich Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> There's nothing to transition to! I cannot believe that XOrg thinks >>> that nobody needs to do this, it's mind boggling to me. It's going to be a >>> big problem at our lab. >>> >>> > On May 18, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Rockers, Elijah D. < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hello again experts, >>> > >>> > Being that XQ is no longer going to support IGLX, this could interfere >>> > with some current application's functionality in our lab. Should I >>> > notify the application developers that they should consider looking to >>> > transition away from GLX? Or is this kind of ssh X forwarding to the >>> mac >>> > not even possible without GLX (are there alternatives to GLX they could >>> > consider?) >>> > >>> > Apologies, even as a computer nerd, the complexity of graphics >>> > software/hardware remains somewhat of a mystery to me, so I'm not 100% >>> > sure I'm even asking the right questions here.. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > >>> > On 05/18/2016 01:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >> Send X11-users mailing list submissions to >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.apple.com_mailman_listinfo_x11-2Dusers&d=DQIGaQ&c=QmPtDiFixEjkMvDKaP3E2Vb9C2z4M0PdarxyAHQ2iDQ&r=xbyrBxm81l6mG_XEX66jgCNTXfK3eVo30T9sVQVTz1Q&m=QxWBPYhrJDLEjKQVCbgqy2m2NQqrzyEAvSuTOE66hAM&s=uXmR_DzubpZgOhdbZ6vJrPsZkcBqBuZoEy_gwXyvHSQ&e= >>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> >> than "Re: Contents of X11-users digest..." >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Today's Topics: >>> >> >>> >> 1. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia) >>> >> 2. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Richard Cook) >>> >> 3. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia) >>> >> 4. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Rich Cook) >>> >> 5. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (James Gunning) >>> >> 6. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (César) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >>> >> Message: 1 >>> >> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 21:59:06 -0700 >>> >> From: Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]> >>> >> To: César <[email protected]> >>> >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> >> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry >>> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >> >>> >> There was one change, but it didn't completely address the problem. >>> >> >>> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 21:53, César <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Jeremy, was the OpenGL context clipping bug addressed in 2.7.9, or >>> is it still pending? (I sent you a minimal working example showing the bug >>> some time ago) >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> César >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> El miércoles, 18 de mayo de 2016, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < >>> [email protected]> escribió: >>> >>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions >>> of libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>> reasons. >>> >>> >>> >>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with >>> IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a >>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and >>> discouraged). >>> >>> >>> >>> --Jeremy >>> >>> >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that >>> v2.7.9 was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I >>> wondered about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. >>> Nothing prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an >>> attempt to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I >>> haven't had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that >>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially >>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many Thanks! >>> >>>> Christopher >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track >>> of the conversation... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently >>> were discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ >>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed forwarding >>> over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on that fix >>> this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend from my >>> personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in >>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Best regards, >>> >>>> Magda. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If >>> I check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website >>> should I just install it over the previous version? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or >>> is it common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of >>> a framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>> >>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thanks! >>> >>>> Christopher >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a >>> remote linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use. But the >>> good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made my problems >>> with 2.7.9 go away. >>> >> >>> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions >>> of libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>> reasons. >>> >>> >>> >>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with >>> IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a >>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and >>> discouraged). >>> >>> >>> >>> --Jeremy >>> >>> >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that >>> v2.7.9 was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I >>> wondered about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. >>> Nothing prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an >>> attempt to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I >>> haven't had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that >>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially >>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many Thanks! >>> >>>> Christopher >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track >>> of the conversation... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently >>> were discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ >>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed forwarding >>> over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on that fix >>> this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend from my >>> personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in >>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Best regards, >>> >>>> Magda. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If >>> I check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website >>> should I just install it over the previous version? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is >>> it common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a >>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>> >>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thanks! >>> >>>> Christopher >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a >>> remote linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use. >>> >> That is IGLX. >>> >> >>> >>> But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and >>> made my problems with 2.7.9 go away. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions >>> of libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>> reasons. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues >>> with IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a >>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and >>> discouraged). >>> >>>> >>> >>>> --Jeremy >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that >>> v2.7.9 was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I >>> wondered about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. >>> Nothing prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an >>> attempt to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I >>> haven't had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that >>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially >>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Many Thanks! >>> >>>>> Christopher >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track >>> of the conversation... >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently >>> were discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ >>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed forwarding >>> over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on that fix >>> this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend from my >>> personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in >>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck! >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Best regards, >>> >>>>> Magda. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If >>> I check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website >>> should I just install it over the previous version? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or >>> is it common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of >>> a framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>> >>>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Thanks! >>> >>>>> Christopher >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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How are people going to display >>> OpenGL graphics over remote X11 if not by GLX? Sorry if this is offtopic. >>> >> >>> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 22:18, Richard Cook <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I don't know what IGLX is, but GLX did not seem to work for me at >>> all when I tried it in 2.7.9. Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a >>> remote linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use. >>> >>> That is IGLX. >>> >>> >>> >>>> But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and >>> made my problems with 2.7.9 go away. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions >>> of libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>> reasons. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues >>> with IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a >>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and >>> discouraged). >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> --Jeremy >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that >>> v2.7.9 was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I >>> wondered about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. >>> Nothing prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an >>> attempt to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I >>> haven't had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that >>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially >>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Many Thanks! >>> >>>>>> Christopher >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep >>> track of the conversation... >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently >>> were discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ >>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed forwarding >>> over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on that fix >>> this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend from my >>> personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in >>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck! >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>> >>>>>> Magda. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. >>> If I check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with >>> 2.7.8. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website >>> should I just install it over the previous version? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or >>> is it common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of >>> a framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>> >>>>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>> >>>>>> Christopher >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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How are people going to >>> display OpenGL graphics over remote X11 if not by GLX? Sorry if this is >>> offtopic. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 22:18, Richard Cook <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I don't know what IGLX is, but GLX did not seem to work for me at >>> all when I tried it in 2.7.9. Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a >>> remote linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use. >>> >>>> That is IGLX. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and >>> made my problems with 2.7.9 go away. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the >>> versions of libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the >>> security reasons. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues >>> with IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a >>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and >>> discouraged). >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> --Jeremy >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that >>> v2.7.9 was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I >>> wondered about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. >>> Nothing prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an >>> attempt to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I >>> haven't had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that >>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially >>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Many Thanks! >>> >>>>>>> Christopher >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep >>> track of the conversation... >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We >>> recently were discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved >>> while the version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan >>> 10.11.5. XQ 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that >>> needed forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been >>> working on that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly >>> recommend from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have >>> nothing in particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good >>> luck! >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>> >>>>>>> Magda. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. >>> If I check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with >>> 2.7.8. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website >>> should I just install it over the previous version? >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or >>> is it common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of >>> a framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>> >>>>>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>> >>>>>>> Christopher >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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(I sent you a minimal working example showing the bug >>> some >>> >>> time ago) >>> >>>> Thanks, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> César >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> El miércoles, 18 de mayo de 2016, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < >>> >>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> escribió: >>> >>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions >>> of >>> >>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the >>> security >>> >>> reasons. >>> >>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with >>> >>> IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a >>> >>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by >>> default and >>> >>> discouraged). >>> >>>> --Jeremy >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected] >>> >>> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that >>> v2.7.9 >>> >>> was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I >>> wondered >>> >>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>> >>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. >>> >>> Nothing prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and >>> an >>> >>> attempt to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so >>> far I >>> >>> haven't had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears >>> that >>> >>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I >>> initially >>> >>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't >>> broken... >>> >>>>> Many Thanks! >>> >>>>> Christopher >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou < >>> >>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track >>> of >>> >>> the conversation... >>> >>>>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently >>> were >>> >>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while >>> the >>> >>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan >>> 10.11.5. XQ >>> >>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed >>> forwarding >>> >>> over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on that >>> fix >>> >>> this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend >>> from my >>> >>> personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in >>> >>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good >>> luck! >>> >>>>> Best regards, >>> >>>>> Magda. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick < >>> >>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If >>> I >>> >>> check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with >>> 2.7.8. >>> >>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website >>> should I >>> >>> just install it over the previous version? >>> >>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or >>> is >>> >>> it common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more >>> of a >>> >>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal >>> application. >>> >>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>> >>>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Thanks! >>> >>>>> Christopher >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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